Whitespace/Tab issues?

Hello jason,

Do you use the Tab key for setting indents? If you don't, and don't have

"Use tab characters" enabled in the indent settings, PyCharm should never

use tabs for indentation.

With beta1 is anyone else running into issues with PyCharm doing weird

stuff with tabs/whitespace resulting in PYINDENT errors? I'm

frequently having to open my files in another editor and fix tabs..

they are visually aligned properly, but PyCharm seems to be using some

mix of odd tabs/whitespace to align things which prevents the code

from running properly.

I've futzed with the various options for Indentation settings to no

avail.. what works best is "use tab characters" checked. I've tried

with and without "Smart tabs" also enabled but to no avail.

User error? Editor not ready for basic functionality?

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Dmitry Jemerov

Development Lead

JetBrains, Inc.

http://www.jetbrains.com/

"Develop with Pleasure!"

The problem seems to come into play if I'm editing a file in PyCharm that's otherwise been edited beforehand with an editor that inserted spaces vs. tabs.

PyCharm is preserving the pre-existing spaces (as one would expect) and inserting Tabs as I requested.. and that appears to result in PYINDENT errors.

This likely isn't a problem seen with code written completely in PyCharm.

The inverse case may also be true: i.e., PyCharm defaults (IIRC) to not having "use tab characters" checked. Thus, opening/editing a file that was previously edited with tabs enabled (external editor) may also cause this...

A good solution would be a way to clearly identify tabs vs. spaced-indents in the UI.... If that exists already, I missed it.

(one other thought: I added a function to a class that was written in another editor that used whitespace indention at the same level as the other defines in the class. PyCharm identified that function as a 'local' function. I could only correct this by going back and removing all the whitespace indentions.)

-jbl

Hello jason,

I've filed an issue for this problem:

http://youtrack.jetbrains.net/issue/PY-1674

You're welcome to vote for it, or file additional issues if this doesn't

seem to be a complete solution for the problem.

Also note that the current version of PyCharm has a "Show Whitespaces" option

(View | Show Whitespaces) which lets you see tabs vs. whitespace differently

in the editor.

The problem seems to come into play if I'm editing a file in PyCharm

that's otherwise been edited beforehand with an editor that inserted

spaces vs. tabs.

PyCharm is preserving the pre-existing spaces (as one would expect)

and inserting Tabs as I requested.. and that appears to result in

PYINDENT errors.

This likely isn't a problem seen with code written completely in

PyCharm.

The inverse case may also be true: i.e., PyCharm defaults (IIRC) to

not having "use tab characters" checked. Thus, opening/editing a file

that was previously edited with tabs enabled (external editor) may

also cause this...

A good solution would be a way to clearly identify tabs vs.

spaced-indents in the UI.... If that exists already, I missed it.

(one other thought: I added a function to a class that was written in

another editor that used whitespace indention at the same level as the

other defines in the class. PyCharm identified that function as a

'local' function. I could only correct this by going back and removing

all the whitespace indentions.)

--

Dmitry Jemerov

Development Lead

JetBrains, Inc.

http://www.jetbrains.com/

"Develop with Pleasure!"