IDEtalk doesn't cross subnets?

Hi.

We are a team of around 7 people using IntelliJ here at the moment.

We installed IDEtalk and not everyone can see everyone else. Instead, we
seem to be partitioned to 2 groups that can each see everyone on the
group but not on the 2nd one.

My guess is that somehow we're on different subnets in the company.

We can ping eachother and use Windows networking but not IDEtalk.

I am not sure that I am right about the problem cause, so feel free to
suggest other potential problems.

We're all using Windows XP.

Is that a known limitation at the moment?

Thanks,
Amnon

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It doesn't appear to work over a VPN either.

"Amnon I. Govrin" <nomail@jetbrains.com> wrote in message
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Hi.

>

We are a team of around 7 people using IntelliJ here at the moment.

>

We installed IDEtalk and not everyone can see everyone else. Instead, we
seem to be partitioned to 2 groups that can each see everyone on the group
but not on the 2nd one.

>

My guess is that somehow we're on different subnets in the company.

>

We can ping eachother and use Windows networking but not IDEtalk.

>

I am not sure that I am right about the problem cause, so feel free to
suggest other potential problems.

>

We're all using Windows XP.

>

Is that a known limitation at the moment?

>

Thanks,
Amnon



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Well,

this thing works with broadcasts... And broadcasts are not routed (by
default)...



Johannes Schneider


Brad wrote:

It doesn't appear to work over a VPN either.

"Amnon I. Govrin" <nomail@jetbrains.com> wrote in message
news:d4jcj6$hp8$1@is.intellij.net...

>>Hi.
>>
>>We are a team of around 7 people using IntelliJ here at the moment.
>>
>>We installed IDEtalk and not everyone can see everyone else. Instead, we
>>seem to be partitioned to 2 groups that can each see everyone on the group
>>but not on the 2nd one.
>>
>>My guess is that somehow we're on different subnets in the company.
>>
>>We can ping eachother and use Windows networking but not IDEtalk.
>>
>>I am not sure that I am right about the problem cause, so feel free to
>>suggest other potential problems.
>>
>>We're all using Windows XP.
>>
>>Is that a known limitation at the moment?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Amnon


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So what would block this? Our IT department says we are all on the same
subnet.

Amnon

Johannes Schneider wrote:

Well,

this thing works with broadcasts... And broadcasts are not routed (by
default)...



Johannes Schneider


Brad wrote:

>>It doesn't appear to work over a VPN either.
>>
>>"Amnon I. Govrin" <nomail@jetbrains.com> wrote in message
>>news:d4jcj6$hp8$1@is.intellij.net...
>>
>>
>>>Hi.
>>>
>>>We are a team of around 7 people using IntelliJ here at the moment.
>>>
>>>We installed IDEtalk and not everyone can see everyone else. Instead, we
>>>seem to be partitioned to 2 groups that can each see everyone on the group
>>>but not on the 2nd one.
>>>
>>>My guess is that somehow we're on different subnets in the company.
>>>
>>>We can ping eachother and use Windows networking but not IDEtalk.
>>>
>>>I am not sure that I am right about the problem cause, so feel free to
>>>suggest other potential problems.
>>>
>>>We're all using Windows XP.
>>>
>>>Is that a known limitation at the moment?
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Amnon
>>
>>
>>

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Amnon I. Govrin wrote:

So what would block this? Our IT department says we are all on the same
subnet.


If all your hosts are in the same subnet, please check your local
firewall settings. Network requirements for IDEtalk plugin are described
here:

http://www.idetalk.com/download.html

Hope this helps,
KIR

--
Kirill Maximov
Software Developer
JetBrains, Inc.
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"

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Slightly related - I suppose that the multicast is only used to find
potential chatters, and from then on it's unicast. Could you add an
option to open a chat session with someone (send code pointer, etc.)
based on their IP address or hostname? This would allow me to interact
with developers in other offices without having to convince our network
admins to turn on routing of multicast, which is never really going to
be a high priority for them ...

That would be a pretty big win for me, because ultimately if someone's
on the same subnet as me it means they're in the same office. If they're
in a different country, it's a little bit harder to say "let me show you
what I mean".
R

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Hello Robert,

Actually, I'm working on Jabber transport for IDEtalk. Given that
you'll be able to communicate remotely via Jabber, do you need direct
IP-based P2P communication? Current multicast-based transport will work
in parallel with Jabber.

With kind regards,
KIR


Robert Gibson wrote:

Slightly related - I suppose that the multicast is only used to find
potential chatters, and from then on it's unicast. Could you add an
option to open a chat session with someone (send code pointer, etc.)
based on their IP address or hostname? This would allow me to interact
with developers in other offices without having to convince our network
admins to turn on routing of multicast, which is never really going to
be a high priority for them ...

That would be a pretty big win for me, because ultimately if someone's
on the same subnet as me it means they're in the same office. If they're
in a different country, it's a little bit harder to say "let me show you
what I mean".
R



--
Kirill Maximov
Software Developer
JetBrains, Inc.
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"

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I don't know - how do peers find each other across routers with Jabber?
(Maybe we should take this offline...)
R

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