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Hello Donald,

DM> There was an article about a company (http://www.clearnova.com/)
DM> that has a workbench for creating AJAX applications. Will Jet Brains
DM> be pursuing something like this in the near future?

In the near future - no. But we do plan to continue improving our code editing
support for JavaScript.

--
Dmitry Jemerov
Software Developer
JetBrains, Inc.
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"


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"Donald McLean" <dmclean@stsci.edu> wrote in message
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There was an article about a company

(http://www.clearnova.com/) that has a workbench for
creating AJAX applications. Will Jet Brains be pursuing
something like this in the near future?

Imho there are no "Ajax applications". There are
ASP.NET-based or JSF-based or Struts/JSP-based applications
enhanced with async request processing model.

What is your understanding of "Ajax applications"?

Michael.

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Looking it over, it's not so much a workbench as a great big expensive ($2000/developer!) proprietary framework which happens to have a dubious-looking Eclipse front-end. I wish them well, but the market has not looked favorably on such proprietary framework attempts in the past, no matter how sexy the tooling is (a moment of silence for the passing of Fabrique).

OTOH, if you're looking to improve your JavaScript coding experience in IDEA, these guys might be able to help you out: http://www.sixthandredriver.com/inspection-js.html

--Dave Griffith



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Dave Griffith wrote:

Looking it over, it's not so much a workbench as a great big expensive ($2000/developer!) proprietary framework which happens to have a dubious-looking Eclipse front-end. I wish them well, but the market has not looked favorably on such proprietary framework attempts in the past, no matter how sexy the tooling is (a moment of silence for the passing of Fabrique).

OTOH, if you're looking to improve your JavaScript coding experience in IDEA, these guys might be able to help you out: http://www.sixthandredriver.com/inspection-js.html

--Dave Griffith

I am already a customer of that.

We are in the hype phase of AJAX, not so much because I don't like to
create applications that use it (I have done those since 4 years ago)
but because there are a lot of uprising frameworks and toolkits, so
betting on one of them may not be such a great idea.

As an application developer and as a company, one chooses a toolkit or
framework that does the best job for one's needs. We made the UI and
backend layers completely decoupled so that we could move if necessary
to a new UI or server platform. In case you're curious, our pretty
complex application which manages lists of even 100,000 objects and
various settings and complex layouts uses Bindows as the UI layer and
Jetty as the backend (servlet container), with more layers in the
back-end, but that was the most suitable solution for the application
and constraints we faced, so I don't intend to start a "what's the
ultimate framework" discussion, just gave an example.

Since we're dealing with browsers, the lowest common denominator for web
UIs is HTML and JavaScript, which is why every JavaScript editing
improvement is of great use for us (developing in Bindows is strictly
XML and JavaScript, so at this point I don't even care about HTML support).

Regards,
Amnon

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