new EAP with OSX

I got a private note about the new EAP and to check it out. Since I
complain so much, I thought I should also praise when praise is due. What
ever changes were made in the new EAP made a huge difference for me on
OSX. I can actually type at my own speed and not have to wait for text to
catch up, even on the longest line of a file, no more slowdown. Nice
work... really.

Further, I can actually startup an app server instance to debug my app,
and type code at the same time if I feel like it, and idea doesn't
complain or slow down or jitter or what ever... I haven't been able to do
that in ask long as I can remember... 3.0?

Compiling and hotswapping screams, the hotswap prompt barely has time to
popup on 3 classes to swap.

Nice work, you're making me want to use this and help out again... real
nice.

R

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Don't forget to run: sudo ./fslogger --self-repair

from the bin directory inside the IDEA.app folder, that seems to be a huge
key to performance. Now when I bring idea back into focus, I get the
prompt to start typing instantly, no waiting for anything.

I'd really like to know what in Tiger you're using to hook idea into to
make this huge a difference.

R

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It seems like this version solves the annoying hotswap I've been having
for a very long time on Windows...

Hopefully it's not just IDEA having a good day on my computer :)

Thanks!

Amnon

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Nope, just happened again :(

Premature happiness...

Amnon

Amnon I. Govrin wrote:

It seems like this version solves the annoying hotswap I've been having
for a very long time on Windows...

Hopefully it's not just IDEA having a good day on my computer :)

Thanks!

Amnon

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Robert S. Sfeir wrote:

I'd really like to know what in Tiger you're using to hook idea into to
make this huge a difference.


I suspect that they're using the same kernel APIs that Spotlight uses.

Ciao,
Gordon

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Robert S. Sfeir wrote:
> I'd really like to know what in Tiger you're using to hook idea into to
> make this huge a difference.

It looks like they interface with http://www.kernelthread.com/software/fslogger/

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In article <op.swuna2c0zv1nfl@kermit.local>,
"Robert S. Sfeir" <nomail@jetbrains.com> wrote:

Whatever changes were made in the new EAP made a huge difference for me on
OSX.


Which build number?

Scott]

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scott@alodar.nospam.com
Java and database consulting for the life sciences

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For me the changes are not so dramatic. In fact I don't notice any speed
improvement on my Powerbook 1.67 w/1.5gb ram. Things are still pretty slow.

Robert S. Sfeir wrote:

I got a private note about the new EAP and to check it out. Since I
complain so much, I thought I should also praise when praise is due.
What ever changes were made in the new EAP made a huge difference for
me on OSX. I can actually type at my own speed and not have to wait
for text to catch up, even on the longest line of a file, no more
slowdown. Nice work... really.

Further, I can actually startup an app server instance to debug my app,
and type code at the same time if I feel like it, and idea doesn't
complain or slow down or jitter or what ever... I haven't been able to
do that in ask long as I can remember... 3.0?

Compiling and hotswapping screams, the hotswap prompt barely has time
to popup on 3 classes to swap.

Nice work, you're making me want to use this and help out again... real
nice.

R

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Hey Scott,

Build 3483, released this afternoon.

R

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On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 19:25:38 -0400, Keith Lea <keith@cs.oswego.edu> wrote:

For me the changes are not so dramatic. In fact I don't notice any speed
improvement on my Powerbook 1.67 w/1.5gb ram. Things are still pretty
slow.


Really? weird, for me the change is obvious. I'm on a 1.5Ghz 1/1.5gb ram
PB.

I know for sure there is a diff in typing because when I type on the
longest line, it keeps up with me.

R
ps I'm using JDK 5.0 too.

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When I switch back into IDEA, there's still a half-second pause before controls
change state (scrollbars are blue instead of gray, etc). Pressing enter is
pretty slow. Typing is the same speed it was before. Scrolling still lags. I'm
running on Java5 too.

Robert S. Sfeir wrote:

On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 19:25:38 -0400, Keith Lea <keith@cs.oswego.edu> wrote:

>> For me the changes are not so dramatic. In fact I don't notice any
>> speed improvement on my Powerbook 1.67 w/1.5gb ram. Things are still
>> pretty slow.


Really? weird, for me the change is obvious. I'm on a 1.5Ghz 1/1.5gb
ram PB.

I know for sure there is a diff in typing because when I type on the
longest line, it keeps up with me.

R
ps I'm using JDK 5.0 too.

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On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 00:39:35 -0400, Keith Lea <keith@cs.oswego.edu> wrote:

When I switch back into IDEA, there's still a half-second pause before
controls change state (scrollbars are blue instead of gray, etc).
Pressing enter is pretty slow. Typing is the same speed it was before.
Scrolling still lags. I'm running on Java5 too.


Weird, with the exception of the enter key and scrolling which indeed are
real slow, and to my knowledge nothing was done about that, I see the
complete opposite observation when it comes to switching back. I can
instantly start typing, bars are blue etc... I've also noticed that with
fslogger on I compile and hotswap much much faster.

Dunno, maybe someone at JB can shed some light on what to expect?

R

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So when can we expect a build that has functional CVS?

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Monday morning hopefully.
-


Maxim Shafirov
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"


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Same here on a Powerbook 1.33 GHz with 1 GB RAM running OSX 10.4.2 with
Java 5. My impression is that nothing much has changed regarding
performance. Typing is still rather slow, especially on the longest
line. It might have improved a little overall, but working with IDEA on
Windows is still much more fun than on my Powerbook.

Michael

Keith Lea wrote:

For me the changes are not so dramatic. In fact I don't notice any speed
improvement on my Powerbook 1.67 w/1.5gb ram. Things are still pretty slow.

Robert S. Sfeir wrote:

>> I got a private note about the new EAP and to check it out. Since I
>> complain so much, I thought I should also praise when praise is due.
>> What ever changes were made in the new EAP made a huge difference for
>> me on OSX. I can actually type at my own speed and not have to wait
>> for text to catch up, even on the longest line of a file, no more
>> slowdown. Nice work... really.
>>
>> Further, I can actually startup an app server instance to debug my
>> app, and type code at the same time if I feel like it, and idea
>> doesn't complain or slow down or jitter or what ever... I haven't
>> been able to do that in ask long as I can remember... 3.0?
>>
>> Compiling and hotswapping screams, the hotswap prompt barely has time
>> to popup on 3 classes to swap.
>>
>> Nice work, you're making me want to use this and help out again...
>> real nice.
>>
>> R

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Maxim Shafirov (JetBrains) wrote on 11/09/05 06:54:

Monday morning hopefully.


Mmmm, obviously not -my- Monday morning :p

Question thou - are these EAP builds still for 5.0x patch builds, or a
fresh 6.0 EAP?

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Question thou - are these EAP builds still for 5.0x patch builds

Quite right.

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Maxim Shafirov
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"


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I've also been seeing redraw bugs since this build, like where the bottom few
lines of a file is shown twice at the bottom of the window, until I scroll and
it disappears.

Robert S. Sfeir wrote:

I got a private note about the new EAP and to check it out. Since I
complain so much, I thought I should also praise when praise is due.
What ever changes were made in the new EAP made a huge difference for
me on OSX. I can actually type at my own speed and not have to wait
for text to catch up, even on the longest line of a file, no more
slowdown. Nice work... really.

Further, I can actually startup an app server instance to debug my app,
and type code at the same time if I feel like it, and idea doesn't
complain or slow down or jitter or what ever... I haven't been able to
do that in ask long as I can remember... 3.0?

Compiling and hotswapping screams, the hotswap prompt barely has time
to popup on 3 classes to swap.

Nice work, you're making me want to use this and help out again... real
nice.

R

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On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 11:33:13 -0400, Keith Lea <keith@cs.oswego.edu> wrote:

I've also been seeing redraw bugs since this build, like where the
bottom few lines of a file is shown twice at the bottom of the window,
until I scroll and it disappears.


you've got some messed up install or something. I've been cruising in
idea incredibly fast all weekend, even with 3 projects open, I can now
minimize and when I restore the window it's 1 second and everything is
ready. I even told Max that idea is now compiling faster than ant at the
command line.

R

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I've also been seeing redraw bugs since this build

Known issue, fixed.

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Maxim Shafirov
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"


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In article <op.swvarbaszv1nfl@kermit.local>,
"Robert S. Sfeir" <nomail@jetbrains.com> wrote:

Hey Scott,

Build 3483, released this afternoon.


Thanks! Will check it out, once I get back to coding.

I currently have my marketing hat on, creating a 'Alodar: your go-to
guys for science applications on the Mac' web page. A hard message to
get right, since the science audience is smart, but they are not
software engineers. Your terminology changes - you do not want to talk
down, but you do not want to lose people who do not live and breath
three letter acronyms.

Scott

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scott@alodar.nospam.com
Java and database consulting for the life sciences

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