Right gutter error/warning marks obscured by scroll bar

Subject says it all.  The scroll bar blocks the error/warning gutter marks and makes it nearly impossible to click on them.  In fact, even when the scroll bar is not there, the gutter icons are way too small to click.  Can we please get the icons enlarged, and moved out of the way of the scroll bar?

Thank You,
Eric

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Hello Eric,

The overlap between the error marks and the scrollbar is intentional, and
we don't plan to change it.

Note that you can use the F2 key to navigate between highlighted errors/warnings
quickly.

Subject says it all.  The scroll bar blocks the error/warning gutter
marks and makes it nearly impossible to click on them.  In fact, even
when the scroll bar is not there, the gutter icons are way too small
to click.  Can we please get the icons enlarged, and moved out of the
way of the scroll bar?


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Dmitry Jemerov
Development Lead
JetBrains, Inc.
http://www.jetbrains.com/
"Develop with Pleasure!"


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Since we're talking scroll bars, I noticed that in 106.273, there are no arrows on the scroll bars.

This is on Mac 10.6.7 with the latest Java (and all other Apple updates) and using the default Mac look and feel.

(By the way, I don't know if it's new or I'm just noticing it, but the appearance of keyboard acclerator underscores when the option key is held down is very nice. I also like the new in-line, incremental search-and-replace.)


Randall Schulz

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Hello Randall,

Since we're talking scroll bars, I noticed that in 106.273, there are
no arrows on the scroll bars.

This is on Mac 10.6.7 with the latest Java (and all other Apple
updates) and using the default Mac look and feel.


There are no arrows on the scroll bars in 10.0 either, which is also intentional.

--
Dmitry Jemerov
Development Lead
JetBrains, Inc.
http://www.jetbrains.com/
"Develop with Pleasure!"


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The nearly complete overlap of the gutter marks by the scroll bar, thereby making the gutter marks nearly impossible to click, was intentional??  For what purpose?  To save a few pixels of screen space?  This has to be one of the worst "features" I have ever heard of.  This situation is making the application utterly frustrating to use.  I know I can't be the only person who thinks this.

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I would classify that as "uncool."

Why not?


Randall Schulz

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Hello Randall,

I would classify that as "uncool."

Why not?


http://confluence.jetbrains.net/display/IDEADEV/Scrollbars+FAQ

--
Dmitry Jemerov
Development Lead
JetBrains, Inc.
http://www.jetbrains.com/
"Develop with Pleasure!"


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The FAQ was helpful in pointing out that you can still hover over the gutter mark even under the scrollbar and it was nice to know you can scroll my clicking next the scrollbar as well (although I tend to use my scrolling capabilities of my mouse and almost never grab the scrollbar).

However, there is still the problem that the gutter marks are very hard to see since they are under the scrollbar. That is the only problem I have with the new scrollbar. I like the fact it is out of the way, arrows on a scrollbar are worthless these days with scrolling mice (as the FAQ points) out, and a scrollbar does take up a lot of real estate that can be better used.

Maybe the scrollbar can be even MORE transparent when not being used, that way the gutter marks show through it?

About the only thing the scrollbar does for me is give me an idea how long the file is and where I am at in the file. Give me another way to see that and the scrollbar can just go away IMHO.

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The FAQ says the scroll bar is 'click through'.  I disagree with this.  If I try to click on a gutter mark THROUGH the scroll bar it does NOT work on Mac OSX.  Am I missing something?

Try folding all of your code, and then try clicking on the gutter marks.  It simply doesn't work very well when the scroll bar is visible.

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Well, I'll stand corrected.  It seems as though I can indeed click "through" the scroll bar and hit the gutter mark.  I could have sworn I tried this and it didn't work.  I think the main problem is that one does not intuitively understand that the scroll bar can be clicked "through", and so one immediately assumes you have to click the very edge of the gutter mark to get it to work.  At least that's what I immediately thought.

Anyway now that I know you can click through the scroll bar to the gutter marks below, the situation is not that bad.  I do wish the gutter marks were larger, as well as the gutter icons on the left gutter.  With a high-resoultion screen these icons can be very small, and very hard to hit with the mouse.

Thank You,
Eric

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<irony>
If you're working with an OS X laptop, you already have the coolest touchpad available => you don't really need scrollbars for scrolling anyway.
If you're working with an OS X desktop, you can buy the coolest touchpad available => you don't need scrollbars for scrolling, either.
If you're not on OS X, well, good luck with that.
</irony>

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No matter the platform you are on you can use a mouse with a scroll wheel.

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