Exception icon

I understand its value, but when you get the same exception over and over again, have already submitted it to the tracker three or four times, and still get it each time your file is re-parsed, it gets pretty annoying.

I don't mind the flashing icon, but that popup with an arrow is implemented as a separate window on Win platform and steals away keyboard focus momentarily, which impedes work greatly.

Is there any way to switch it off? Hack it away with a chainsaw? Make it suffer the same way I did?

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A related, bigger issue to me is that I've probably reported 20 distinct Exceptions in the last month and hardly one has been addressed. Why bother reporting these exceptions when rarely are any addressed? No doubt, JB has to deal with a boatload of exceptions, but for the ones I've been submitting, there seems to be virtually no activity. Do others see this? Perhaps JB plans on digging into exceptions later in the EAP cycle? At this point, it is somewhat disheartening and makes you want to give up reporting them at all.

Jon

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One of my issues was actually reported to be fixed, no complaints here.
What bugs me is that bug reporting feature is a bug in itself, bugging you endlessly, while you work on rooting out 'your' bugs.

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It would be nice if after reporting an exception, you could tell the system to not bother you with it if it occurs again, to just automatically clear and continue.

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Jon Steelman wrote:

A related, bigger issue to me is that I've probably reported 20
distinct Exceptions in the last month and hardly one has been
addressed. Why bother reporting these exceptions when rarely are any
addressed? No doubt, JB has to deal with a boatload of exceptions,
but for the ones I've been submitting, there seems to be virtually no
activity. Do others see this?


In the last month I have submitted 36 exceptions for which I am the
original submitter (I submitted more, but those were already submitted
by somebody else and I can't find them). Of those 5 have been marked
duplicate. 4 duplicates are still open. All the other exceptions are
still in "Submitted" state (assigned actually because they are light
blue?).
9 exceptions are actually fixed, but not marked as such. Those were
exceptions in IntentionPowerPack and fixed by Dave Griffith. So it does
seem the exceptions get a bit less attention lately, but the Jetbrains
people are probably busy fixing other bugs. My JIRA bugs are getting
fixed pretty fast, much better than in the tracker days.

Bas

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Agreed that JIRA issues are being better addressed than before. Maybe at the end of the EAP cycle when the design is locked down, maybe then exceptions will get more attention along with optimizations.

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I suppose it's not an easy thing to do - how are you going to compare exceptions?
For starters, eliminating that annoying tooltip window with an arrow would be quite enough.

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Bas,
indeed, saying of myself, I can admit that I'm working with exceptions not
so regularly these days.
Others probably too. But while this makes EAP build surely less stable, it
still allows us to introduce new features rather than to delve in endless
stream of exceptions. Please do not be so strict to builds quality, the time
for exception fixing will come really soon.
Eugene.

"Bas Leijdekkers" <leijdekkers@SPAMBLOCK.carp-technologies.nl> wrote in
message news:42822812.6090000@SPAMBLOCK.carp-technologies.nl...

Jon Steelman wrote:

A related, bigger issue to me is that I've probably reported 20
distinct Exceptions in the last month and hardly one has been
addressed. Why bother reporting these exceptions when rarely are any
addressed? No doubt, JB has to deal with a boatload of exceptions,
but for the ones I've been submitting, there seems to be virtually no
activity. Do others see this?

>

In the last month I have submitted 36 exceptions for which I am the
original submitter (I submitted more, but those were already submitted
by somebody else and I can't find them). Of those 5 have been marked
duplicate. 4 duplicates are still open. All the other exceptions are
still in "Submitted" state (assigned actually because they are light
blue?).
9 exceptions are actually fixed, but not marked as such. Those were
exceptions in IntentionPowerPack and fixed by Dave Griffith. So it does
seem the exceptions get a bit less attention lately, but the Jetbrains
people are probably busy fixing other bugs. My JIRA bugs are getting
fixed pretty fast, much better than in the tracker days.

>

Bas



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But while this makes EAP build surely less stable, it
still allows us to introduce new features rather than to delve in endless
stream of exceptions. Please do not be so strict to builds quality, the time
for exception fixing will come really soon.


I don't understand. Why do you think, that fixing bugs hinders you to
introduce new features. I always thought, first make one thing fine before
doing the next one is easier to control then otherwise, because you always
have a good and relatively stable base and always can make a release. If you
find on too much fronts you will loose. History has proven.

Tom

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indeed, saying of myself, I can admit that I'm
working with exceptions not so regularly these days.
Others probably too...Please do not be so strict to
builds quality, the time for exception fixing will come really soon.
Eugene.


That's somewhat reassuring.

Thanks,
Jon

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I don't mind the flashing icon, but that popup with
an arrow is implemented as a separate window on Win
platform... <snip>


Which leads me to something else I'd noticed. I just started using IDEA on Linux at home, and I noticed that whenever the popup, er, popped up, I would get a new window appearing in the Kicker (KDE task bar). Since I was editing an XML file that IDEA hated (an Ant config file with Ivy tasks - I couldn't get IDEA to like the antlib declaration) they popped up all the time and eventually Kicker crashed (which never, ever happens with normal usage).

Anyone else see this?

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On Thu, 12 May 2005 11:46:48 +0400, Colin Fleming wrote:

>> I don't mind the flashing icon, but that popup with
>> an arrow is implemented as a separate window on Win
>> platform... ]]>

Which leads me to something else I'd noticed. I just started using IDEA
on Linux at home, and I noticed that whenever the popup, er, popped up,
I would get a new window appearing in the Kicker (KDE task bar).

Anyone else see this?


I use xfce4 and used to get a new taskbar entry for each popup, but don't
see it happening with 3326 (I haven't been using the EAP builds much and
don't recall when this might have stopped for me).

I dislike the popup, finding it obtrusive, ugly and unnecessary -
it's actually just an admission that the flashing icon (which, BTW, has a
style that, IMO, looks distinctly odd when compared to other IDEA icons -
it looks washed-out and feeble, as if it's been through a washing machine
and hung out in strong sunlight to dry several hundred times) has failed
in its primary task of attracting attention.

I also think its text is now out of date - depending on the source of the
error and how a plug-in is coded, the error report dialog may offer to
send a report to a plug-in author rather than Jetbrains.

Hmm... seems my intention of answering "Yes, but no longer" turned into a
bit of a rant.

--
Mark Scott
mark@codebrewer.com

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Just noticed they're already compared. Silly me.

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