IntelliJ vs. Eclipse

I have purchased and used intellij as my primary ide ]]>

I have used intellij and eclipse now and IMHO they are both really good IDE's. They seem to share many features like refactoring, code inspections ect.

I have only used eclipse a couple of times, I primarily use intellij. So here is my question(s)

What is it about intellij that makes it a better IDE. Please post "REAL" answers/features not "I don't like their interface"


What is it about eclipse that makes it a better IDE. To think that any single IDE truely dominates another in every way is probably not realistic.

I also don't want to start a feature request thread but I would like to see what features people are using in each that I may be missing.

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Marcus Brito wrote:
>>ECLIPSE wins on:
>>multiple debugger instances
>>VSS plugin
>>better usage of screen estate


You must be kidding. Sure you are, noone can be serious about any other IDE being better than IDEA in screen space usage. The side sliders were a great idea, and I simply can't live without them now.

I try eclipse from time to time. They have great features, but I simply can't live with that 'sticky' eclipse views. Yeah, I know they have a "fast view" feature -- but fast views are only dockable on the left side and you can't assign shortcuts to them.


I was not kidding. I like a lot the double-click-on-tab-maximizes-editor
feature that eclipse has. The space allocated to borders looked better
in Eclipse than idea at the time of posting.

As I said in my post, though, I mostly use IDEA (and I've been on the
EAP since before 2.0 I think ...) because overall it's way better (esp.
the editor)

Edo

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Marcus Brito wrote:
>>ECLIPSE wins on:
>>multiple debugger instances
>>VSS plugin
>>better usage of screen estate


You must be kidding. Sure you are, noone can be serious about any other IDE being better than IDEA in screen space usage. The side sliders were a great idea, and I simply can't live without them now.

I try eclipse from time to time. They have great features, but I simply can't live with that 'sticky' eclipse views. Yeah, I know they have a "fast view" feature -- but fast views are only dockable on the left side and you can't assign shortcuts to them.


I was not kidding. I like a lot the double-click-on-tab-maximizes-editor
feature that eclipse has. The space allocated to borders looked better
in Eclipse than idea at the time of posting.

As I said in my post, though, I mostly use IDEA (and I've been on the
EAP since before 2.0 I think ...) because overall it's way better (esp.
the editor)

Edo

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ECLIPSE wins on:
multiple debugger instances
VSS plugin
better usage of screen estate



I can't speak to whether eclipse "wins" on the screen real-estate issue, but I do know that I consistently have problems with IDEA's use of screen real-estate.

In particular, I find that Vertical editor real-estate is my most valuable commodity, so I have the debug, find usages, etc tabs come up on the right and left (depending). Unfortunately, some of these modes of operation are very difficult to run vertically. I end up with wasted space at the bottom, and I am squeezed for horizontal space at the top.

It would be useful to be able to stack tabs (Have a tab take but half the screen, so I could have both a find usages, and a debug tab taking the same amount of horizonal space. This would give more space to the editor.

...Perhaps I should Write something up on this.

Mike

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In article <15070162.1054034814596.JavaMail.jrun@is.intellij.net>,
Michael Kirby <kirby@ess.mc.xerox.com> wrote:

ECLIPSE wins on:
better usage of screen estate


I can't speak to whether eclipse "wins" on the screen real-estate issue, but
I do know that I consistently have problems with IDEA's use of screen
real-estate.


That IDEA does not leave room for the resize widget in the bottom right
of the window is a problem for me. I code on a TiBook, and I often need
to see both my IDE and something else at the same time.

I do like the docking behavior IDEA uses, so there are some screen real
estate bennies to it, but that one missing feature is a pain. (JB
considers it an Apple bug, Apple considers it a JB bug, so I suspect it
will never be fixed.)

Scott

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However, if a feature is truly unique/distinctive

enough, the product
vendor can always file for patent on the feature.

I suppose patents of such kind are just ridiculous.
Personally I do not mind
of copying IDEA's featrues by other products. I'm
happy when we find
something to copy from other products as well (that
unfortunately does not
happen very often).

--
Valentin Kipiatkov
JetBrains, Inc
http://www.intellij.com
"Develop with pleasure!"


This two year old reply by Valentin still continues to amaze me. Even in this dirty, corrupted business landscape of ours, there still are companies and people with backs made of steel.

Not everyone hides behind a flock of black robed lawyers.

KUDOS to you. Maintain the moral and technical superiority.

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