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updated already, thanks.

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Best regards,
Eugene Zhuravlev
Software Developer
JetBrains Inc.
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"


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Now THAT is what I call a speedy reply. :)

Thanks a lot.

regards

Anders

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I downloaded Irida build 3144 today, and after entering the license key as displayed on the download page I get a message the key is valid one day only?! If that's correct, I'm missing something.....!

Regards,
EJ

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EAP keys are updated regularly during the program. JetBrains folks will probably update the key tomorrow.

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Thomas, a few key EAP'ers (Keith Lea comes to my mind right now) have been advertising IDEA on their blogs and web pages, pointing out that you can use it for free for a relatively long time if you're open to participate in EAP. I think we old timers should educate these newcomers about how EAP works, instead of just telling them to buy the product right away.

That being said... EJ, please understand that the EAP program is not an evaluation. EAP is for those of us who want to help JetBrains to find and squash bugs, for those of us who want a better IDEA at the next version. If you want to just evaluate the product, you can download and try the released version for full 30 days at http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/

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Thanks, I'm aware of the character of the EAP program. Since my registration in 2003 I haven't put much effort in helping out. But every new year comes with good intentions...

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EJ wrote:

>..But every new year comes with good intentions...

>

.. like purchasing a license, at 50% :
http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/buy/personal.html



Alain

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In article <cred59$q5l$1@is.intellij.net>,
Alain Ravet <alain.ravet@biz.tiscali.be> wrote:

EJ wrote:

>..But every new year comes with good intentions...

>

.. like purchasing a license, at 50% :
http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/buy/personal.html


And a new dozen donuts... One for every month.

R

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Does the Personal license allow one to use the EAP program too?

By the way are there any other major differences, other than support and stability, in which the EAP version differs from the commercial one? Is the commercial one perhaps faster, due to less debugging info?

Henry

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Does the Personal license allow one to use the EAP program too?


Of course, every license allows that.

By the way are there any other major differences, other than support and stability, in which the EAP version differs from the commercial one? Is the commercial one perhaps faster, due to less debugging info?


EAP is something like alpha- and beta-versions of the next release.

Tom

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There are dead periods between the distribution of EAP licences. When I was unemployed and could not afford a licence I was using EAP, but had to shift back to Netbeans or Eclipse during those periods (because the EAP licence ran out)

My question was: can I use my personal licence during the dead periods to continue using the EAP release?

(The other meaning of my question could have been: is one not allowed to use the EAP if one buys the personal license.)

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duh, I lost the first paragraph trying to post my post above. The missing text was:

"I just noticed that my original question was ambiguous. As a result I am not sure which of those questions your answer is an answer to. Let me rephrase my question to clarify it, and remove all ambiguity."

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Sure you can use any kind of license you've got to use EAP.

There are dead periods between the distribution of EAP licences. When
I was unemployed and could not afford a licence I was using EAP, but
had to shift back to Netbeans or Eclipse during those periods (because
the EAP licence ran out)

My question was: can I use my personal licence during the dead periods
to continue using the EAP release?

(The other meaning of my question could have been: is one not allowed
to use the EAP if one buys the personal license.)



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Henry Story wrote:

Does the Personal license allow one to use the EAP program too?

By the way are there any other major differences, other than support and stability, in which the EAP version differs from the commercial one? Is the commercial one perhaps faster, due to less debugging info?

Henry


Any valid license can be used with EAP. EAPs tend to have more bugs,
exceptions, cosmetic problems on new features, are slower (performance
tuning is left until the end usually), etc. However, I've used several
EAP versions and have only had minor problems. There are almost always
fairly stable versions you can resort to if the new version is too unstable.

After a while, I tend to get addicted to the new features and don't want
to go back to the previous version of IDEA, despite the bugs etc.

--
Rob Harwood
Software Developer
JetBrains Inc.
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"

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I'm interested in the EAP program. Can I sign up? What's the procedure? I'll happily shout about stuff I want done...

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If you're registered in this forum, you're already registered for EAP. Now just click the "EAP" link on the top of the page, download the latest build and play with it.

Just remember EAP is not a production build, and if your code breaks, your source files vanish, your dog goes crazy and your house explodes, you've been forewarned. Read the footer on the download page for the official agreement.

That being said, if your house do explodes while using the EAP build, please report a bug in the tracker detailing what you were doing when it happened :)

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Fantastic, thanks for the information. I'll check it out.

PS I loved Salvador when I was there, beautiful town. Beautiful country, come to that :)

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cool. It does indeed work.
Now just another small question: is there a danger in switching between
the released version and the EAP version as far as the *iws, *iml and *ipr go? Should one have separate ones for each version?

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In article <29994029.1107357723710.JavaMail.itn@is.intellij.net>,
Henry Story <no_mail@jetbrains.com> wrote:

cool. It does indeed work.
Now just another small question: is there a danger in switching between
the released version and the EAP version as far as the *iws, *iml and *ipr
go? Should one have separate ones for each version?


Yup separate for each AND the cache, preferences and plugins directories
should also be different. Essentially you want two completely separate
installations.

R

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Henry Story wrote:

Now just another small question: is there a danger in switching between
the released version and the EAP version as far as the *iws, *iml and *ipr go?


There seem to be some subtle incompatibilities in the project files
between 2251 and 3200: I tried loading a 2251 J2EE project in 3200,
after reloading in 2251 the deployment descriptor setup was broken:
existing (JBoss specific) ones were no longer recognized, and new, blank
ones had appeared. So, no, don't share them :)

CU,
Edwin

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