Migrating to Eclipse: A developer's guide to evaluating Eclipse vs. IntelliJ IDEA
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Sad. Maybe 1/5 of the article was related to a comparison (weak as it
was). The rest was how to use an IntelliJ project in Eclipse.
We have a developer here who is trying Eclipse. Everyone makes fun of
him (even the JBuilder guys). It's actually quite sad.
Norris Shelton
Sun Certified Java Programmer
Vladimir Goncharov wrote:
>FYI,
>http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/library/os-ecidea/
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The article is IBM marketing pretending to be a comparison.
Eclipse has one truly useful feature that some people just can't live
without: it's free
I admit that at home I have to use Eclipse - it's the best IDE that I
can afford.
Norris Shelton wrote:
>> FYI,
>> http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/library/os-ecidea/
Why not use IntelliJ at home? You can use your work copy at home. I
believe that the license is a per-person license. It does not matter
where you are, you can only use it at one place at a time.
Norris Shelton
Sun Certified Java Programmer
Donald F. McLean wrote:
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>> Sad. Maybe 1/5 of the article was related to a comparison (weak as
>> it was). The rest was how to use an IntelliJ project in Eclipse.
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>> We have a developer here who is trying Eclipse. Everyone makes fun
>> of him (even the JBuilder guys). It's actually quite sad.
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>> Vladimir Goncharov wrote:
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>>> FYI,
>>> http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/library/os-ecidea/
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Considering this article probably has been written by some IBM guy and is published on the IBM website, i find it noticeable that its conclusion is barely "well ... you see ... we're almost as good as IDEA, but we are free ! well .. we're as good as long as you bother getting/buying third party plugins".
a few noticeable statements :
Until recently, one of IDEA's main advantages over Eclipse has been an integrated GUI builder. This is changing now that Eclipse has introduced its Visual Editor. Eclipse's GUI builder is a separate component, but it has an important advantage over IDEA's in that it provides round-tripping between code and graphical views (a change in one is reflected in the other nearly immediately) and doesn't require additional metadata or other files.
I'm not completely sure any IDEA user would put the GUI designer as the main advantage of IDEA ;)
Another hallmark of the Eclipse user interface is that it makes extensive use of wizards: sequences of dialog boxes guide you through the steps necessary for performing a specific task, such as creating new projects or classes and connecting to a CVS repository. IDEA has wizards, too, of course, but Eclipse is distinct in that its wizards are more thorough and provide more options than you may be used to.
well you see, the bad wizard uses a bunch of Dialog boxes ... and the good wizard ... uses a bunch of Dialog boxes
I'm quite sure most IDEA users are not fond of wizards, right ?
and there the funny one
Theoretically speaking, Eclipse should have the edge in performance because it uses SWT, which uses native widgets -- the operating system's UI elements -- whereas IDEA uses Swing/AWT. Practically speaking, however, IntelliJ has done an excellent job in implementing the IDEA user interface and, on a reasonably powerful machine, performance differences are negligible. Users will generally find either sufficiently snappy. Likewise, both Eclipse and IDEA are very stable applications, and users are unlikely to encounter difficulties with either.
Norris Shelton asked:
I work for a non-profit which gets very nicely priced licenses with "Not for commercial use" restrictions.
For work or open source projects, sure, I use Idea. For everything else I have to use Eclipse.
Donald
That's good. In that case, why not pick up a personal license when they
come available? I can't remember how much they cost, but they are not
TOO expensive for an individual.
Damn, I need a job in JB Sales. rofl.
Norris Shelton
Sun Certified Java Programmer
Donald McLean wrote:
>Norris Shelton asked:
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>> Why not use IntelliJ at home? You can use your work
>>copy at home. I believe that the license is a
>>per-person license. It does not matter where you
>>are, you can only use it at one place at a time.
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>I work for a non-profit which gets very nicely priced licenses with "Not for commercial use" restrictions.
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>For work or open source projects, sure, I use Idea. For everything else I have to use Eclipse.
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>Donald
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" Sad. Maybe 1/5 of the article was related to a comparison (weak as it
was). The rest was how to use an IntelliJ project in Eclipse."
I would like to do the opposite, to use a Eclipse project in IDEA. All my co-workers use Eclipse, and I'm forced to do the same since we share project files.
Has anyone tried to make a small script/utility to convert .project and .classpath files to .iml files?? Is it possible?
It would be really nice to just be able to run such a script every time I get a new Eclipse project file from CVS.
I have a hacked solution that does that. It's not worthy of a plugin, since jetbrains are gonna support Eclipse projects in Irida (not to mention I wouldn't admit to anyone I wrote that mess :), but it does the job in the meantime.
Drop me a note with your email address and I'll send it to you.
Andrei
Hello Anders,
AM> " Sad. Maybe 1/5 of the article was related to a comparison (weak as
AM> it was). The rest was how to use an IntelliJ project in Eclipse."
AM>
AM> I would like to do the opposite, to use a Eclipse project in IDEA.
AM> All my co-workers use Eclipse, and I'm forced to do the same since
AM> we share project files.
AM>
AM> Has anyone tried to make a small script/utility to convert .project
AM> and .classpath files to .iml files?? Is it possible?
AM>
AM> It would be really nice to just be able to run such a script every
AM> time I get a new Eclipse project file from CVS.
AM>