1117 and OS X: Cannot change editor font anymore?

It is not possible to change the editor font anymore when using the Aqua LaF. Why was that changed?

Best,
Chris

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Just reported that, I feel like going back to 1113 just because of it. :)

http://www.intellij.net/tracker/idea/viewSCR?publicId=27498

Andrei

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It is not possible to change the editor font anymore when using the Aqua

LaF. Why was that changed?
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Best,
Chris



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Just reported that, I feel like going back to 1113
just because of it. :)


Hehehehe. It is downright annoying since the default font takes way too much space...

Best,
Chris

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On 1/23/04 1:59 AM, in article
27570407.1074812365303.JavaMail.itn@is.intellij.net, "Chris Laprun"
<chris.laprun@nist.gov> wrote:

It is not possible to change the editor font anymore when using the Aqua LaF.
Why was that changed?

Best,
Chris


As the matter of fact Aqua LF does not support changing UI fonts via
tweaking UI defaults well. Many problems reported was actually caused by
this like
- Message box trims message with ... symbols.
- Tooltips with key modifiers aren't aligned properly
- Caret in text field does not match enter text position.

and many others like this where calculation of font metrics is important.
On other hand Aqua is native LF and reflects your system actually look like.
So just change your system defaults to suite your needs. Is that possible
BTW?

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Maxim Shafirov
JetBrains, Inc
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"


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Maxim Shafirov (JetBrains) <max@intellij.com> wrote:

On other hand Aqua is native LF and reflects your system actually look like.
So just change your system defaults to suite your needs. Is that possible
BTW?


Actually, that seems to be a little bit more difficult than it sounds.
At least, I didn't find any options for that in the system preferences.
It doesn't really matter that much, once screen menubar is working ;)

Dirk Dittert

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In article <27570407.1074812365303.JavaMail.itn@is.intellij.net>,
Chris Laprun <chris.laprun@nist.gov> wrote:

It is not possible to change the editor font anymore when using the Aqua LaF.
Why was that changed?


Unless I'm mistanken, you can change the editor font (Settings >
Colors & Fonts > Editor Font), but not the IDE font (Appearance > UI
Options > Font name).

The IDE font is set to Lucida Grande 13, which is the default font for
all of Mac OS X's buttons, menus, etc. So why is it a problem that
IDEA's buttons and menus are shown in the same font as the rest of the
OS?

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Unless I'm mistanken, you can change the *editor
font* (Settings >
Colors & Fonts > Editor Font), but not the IDE font
(Appearance > UI
Options > Font name).


Yes. I really meant IDE and not editor. Sorry for the confusion.

The IDE font is set to Lucida Grande 13, which is the
default font for
all of Mac OS X's buttons, menus, etc. So why is it a
problem that
IDEA's buttons and menus are shown in the same font
as the rest of the
OS?


It's not really a problem, it's more an annoyance. I got used to having a smaller font in the IDE. Now everything seems to big. For that matter, if I could change the default system font for OS X (without having to install a shareware to do it), I would probably do it.

Note also, that the metrics for Java are somewhat different. Menus are more spaced in the system menu bar than they are in IDEA. So everything feels cramped up in IDEA with the system font. See attached screenshots to see what I mean (Picture 2 is IDEA's menu bar, Picture 3 is Safari system menu bar). Notice how in IDEA, it's difficult to tell where a menu ends and where the next one starts. It was easier with a different/smaller font.



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I must say, I'm happy about the new size. Sure, it feels a lot uglier and clunkier than what we're used to in IDEA, but it's the OSX way. I think what would help a lot is if all mnemonics are not shown (to make it a bit more native), they generally contribute to the clutter and making it feel non-OSXy.

The good news is that sticking to the system font means that a lot of previous text clipping problems are now resolved, and I'd rather things look and behave correctly than they look 'cooler' or 'better' but with reduced functionality.

The last step is to have the menubar actually go into the screen menubar!

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In article <28920376.1074883521700.JavaMail.itn@is.intellij.net>,
Hani Suleiman <hani@formicary.net> wrote:

I must say, I'm happy about the new size. Sure, it feels a lot uglier and
clunkier than what we're used to in IDEA, but it's the OSX way. I think what
would help a lot is if all mnemonics are not shown (to make it a bit more
native), they generally contribute to the clutter and making it feel
non-OSXy.


And to remove the images that are in some of the buttons. (For example,
check out the buttons in the "Find" dialog box. The "Find" one has an
image and the button has square-ish corners, while the "Cancel" button
has no image and looks normal.

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