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I can't say that it's always missing, but I can't find it on my Aluminum PowerBook 15" or Apple Bluetooth Keyboard.

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In article <BBF01C94.12F7%max@intellij.com>,
"Maxim Shafirov (JetBrains)" <max@intellij.com> wrote:

Is it me only or Insert key is always missing on Mac keyboards?


Apple says it's "not on most Macintosh keyboards". Also: print screen,
scroll lock, pause, sys req, break, reset, and F-keys greater than F15
are "not on most Macintosh keyboards".


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Erik Hanson

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On 11/30/03 11:41 PM, in article
ehanson-lists-BA9140.12411030112003@host98.intellij.net, "Erik Hanson"
<ehanson-lists@eh.cdeh.org> wrote:

In article <BBF01C94.12F7%max@intellij.com>, "Maxim Shafirov (JetBrains)"
<max@intellij.com> wrote: Is it me only or Insert key is always missing on Mac
keyboards?

Apple says it's "not on most Macintosh keyboards". Also: print screen, scroll
lock, pause, sys req, break, reset, and F-keys greater than F15 are "not on
most Macintosh keyboards".


-- Erik Hanson

Looks like all Insert-mapped action should have different default shortcuts
then:

Old shortcut (action name) new shortcut.
Insert (Toggle Insert/Overwrite). I have no idea what should be mapped to...
AltInsert (Generate, New (in project view)) . Meta"NumPad *"
AltShiftInsert (Toggle Column Mode). AltMeta"NumPad *"

Agreed?
--
Maxim Shafirov
JetBrains, Inc
http://www.intellij.com
"Develop with pleasure!"


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My selfish contribution: keeping away from the NumPad actions would be great for notebook users :) (How many OS X folks here use (Power|i)Books?)

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In article <BBF1010C.1353%max@intellij.com>,
"Maxim Shafirov (JetBrains)" <max@intellij.com> wrote:

Looks like all Insert-mapped action should have different default shortcuts
then:

Old shortcut (action name) new shortcut.
Insert (Toggle Insert/Overwrite). I have no idea what should be mapped to...


Since that feature is very uncommon on Mac editors, you could probably
get away with leaving it unmapped, especially if there were some obvious
way to do it via the mouse such as a menu item in the Edit menu, or a
button at the bottom of the screen. (Of course, people would be free to
make their own mapping if they wanted to.)

In IDEA 3.0.5, clicking on the "Insert" item in the status bar doesn't
do anything; perhaps if that were a button (and looked like one too),
the keyboard shortcut wouldn't be necessary. The EAP builds aren't
working for me right now so it's possible that this has already been
done.

AltInsert (Generate, New (in project view)) . Meta"NumPad *"
AltShiftInsert (Toggle Column Mode). AltMeta"NumPad *"

Agreed?


Those are okay with me, but the "*" key doesn't really relate to either
of those functions (and as Chris Winters mentioned, laptop users would
be left out in the cold).

For generate and new, the "N" key and the "+" key seem like better
alternatives. Though of course "N" stands for "go to class". Cmd-"+"
doesn't seem to be mapped to anything (at least, when I hit it, nothing
happened (and again, I'm using IDEA 3.0.5 at the moment)).

For column mode, the "|" key seems appropriate, since it's in the shape
of a column. It doesn't seem to be mapped to anything either.



--
Erik Hanson

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On 12/1/03 8:41 PM, in article
ehanson-lists-314DB7.09414001122003@host98.intellij.net, "Erik Hanson"
<ehanson-lists@eh.cdeh.org> wrote:

In article <BBF1010C.1353%max@intellij.com>,
"Maxim Shafirov (JetBrains)" <max@intellij.com> wrote:

>> Looks like all Insert-mapped action should have different default shortcuts
>> then:
>>
>> Old shortcut (action name) new shortcut.
>> Insert (Toggle Insert/Overwrite). I have no idea what should be mapped to...


Since that feature is very uncommon on Mac editors, you could probably
get away with leaving it unmapped, especially if there were some obvious
way to do it via the mouse such as a menu item in the Edit menu, or a
button at the bottom of the screen. (Of course, people would be free to
make their own mapping if they wanted to.)

In IDEA 3.0.5, clicking on the "Insert" item in the status bar doesn't
do anything; perhaps if that were a button (and looked like one too),
the keyboard shortcut wouldn't be necessary. The EAP builds aren't
working for me right now so it's possible that this has already been
done.

>> AltInsert (Generate, New (in project view)) . Meta"NumPad *"
>> AltShiftInsert (Toggle Column Mode). AltMeta"NumPad *"
>>
>> Agreed?


Those are okay with me, but the "*" key doesn't really relate to either
of those functions (and as Chris Winters mentioned, laptop users would
be left out in the cold).

For generate and new, the "N" key and the "+" key seem like better
alternatives. Though of course "N" stands for "go to class". Cmd-"+"
doesn't seem to be mapped to anything (at least, when I hit it, nothing
happened (and again, I'm using IDEA 3.0.5 at the moment)).

For column mode, the "|" key seems appropriate, since it's in the shape
of a column. It doesn't seem to be mapped to anything either.



--
Erik Hanson

Cmd+ is mapped to expand fold region under caret...
--
Maxim Shafirov
JetBrains, Inc
http://www.intellij.com
"Develop with pleasure!"


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The only instance where i've found the lack of an 'insert' key to be a problem is in the CVS commit dialog to re-add a file to the list of files to commit after using the delete key.

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