>>i'm very interesting about your new product IDEA C#!
AFAIK there is no such product :) (what we develop is a plugin for VS.NET)
Even so, I am going to have to start supporting C# code in the future, and VS.NET sucks big time in comparison to IDEA. Anything would be better than stock VS.NET.
I have looked sometimes into #develop and came to the conclusion that it is even worse than VS.Net. It's only advantage is that it is open source.
But speaking of bad IDE's. For a project I have to do some development in Delphi. That IDE is really a pain in the arse. You get lost in a multitude of windows where the one window you currently need is the one you cannot see. And even in the newest edition there is nothing like refactoring support. Yeah, you can do some refactorings in some UML editor, but what do I need a UML tool for when I want to refactor my code.
It's always a pleasure to come back to good old IDEA after a day of Delphi or VS.Net.
I cannot wait to see IDEA c#.
Wouldn't Delphi be such a crude programming language by itself, I would also propose IDEA Delphi.
But speaking of bad IDE's. For a project I have to do some development in
Delphi. That IDE is really a pain in the arse. ...
It's always a pleasure to come back to good old IDEA after a day of Delphi
or VS.Net. ...
Wouldn't Delphi be such a crude programming language by itself, I would
also propose IDEA Delphi.
Depends on what you are doing. Delphi suffers from one and only Borland mistake: they released Delphi one year after VB. Delphi is great for windowed app programming, its class library may be buggy but it structure is ingenious and hides Windows message cycle approach very well, while retaining access to all low-level API if needed. The language is easier than C++ while allowing to do everything pretty much the same. Properties are great idea. Well, I used Delphi from 1.02 to 5.0 and I still love it ;)
Michael Seele wrote:
AFAIK there is no such product :) (what we develop is a plugin
for VS.NET)
Well, not at the moment. Well, there are screens, but the shots are not
ready to be pulished just yet :)
Friendly,
Dmitry
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Will it "only" be a refactory plugin, or will you have stuff like auto import, go to defenition with middel mouse button, etc. like in IntelliJ?
Michael Bertelsen wrote:
We plan to make it as good as IDEA eventualy.
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Dmitry Lomov (JetBrains) wrote:
>>i'm very interesting about your new product IDEA C#!
Even so, I am going to have to start supporting C# code in the future,
and VS.NET sucks big time in comparison to IDEA. Anything would be
better than stock VS.NET.
http://www.icsharpcode.net
I think SharpDevelopment project is cool, but IntelliJ is so much better. I even think that VS.NET still is better than SharpDevelopment.
will it only be for C# or for any .NET language?
I have looked sometimes into #develop and came to the conclusion that it is even worse than VS.Net. It's only advantage is that it is open source.
But speaking of bad IDE's. For a project I have to do some development in Delphi. That IDE is really a pain in the arse. You get lost in a multitude of windows where the one window you currently need is the one you cannot see. And even in the newest edition there is nothing like refactoring support. Yeah, you can do some refactorings in some UML editor, but what do I need a UML tool for when I want to refactor my code.
It's always a pleasure to come back to good old IDEA after a day of Delphi or VS.Net.
I cannot wait to see IDEA c#.
Wouldn't Delphi be such a crude programming language by itself, I would also propose IDEA Delphi.
"Robert F. Beeger" <no_mail@jetbrains.com> wrote in message
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Delphi. That IDE is really a pain in the arse.
...
or VS.Net.
...
also propose IDEA Delphi.
Depends on what you are doing. Delphi suffers from one and only Borland
mistake: they released Delphi one year after VB. Delphi is great for
windowed app programming, its class library may be buggy but it structure is
ingenious and hides Windows message cycle approach very well, while
retaining access to all low-level API if needed. The language is easier than
C++ while allowing to do everything pretty much the same. Properties are
great idea. Well, I used Delphi from 1.02 to 5.0 and I still love it ;)
Only C# in the first version. It's likely that some other languages will be
supported later.
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