in less then a day around 120 Exceptions reported on 944

I just had a look at the tracker and saw that since it's release yesterday there have already been around 120 Exceptions reported for build 944. While much of this may be "noise"
in all I have found this EAP much less stable then the Aridana EAP and while I really like the new features and am willing to except some instability I have been having problems working with this EAP.
I would really like to see an effort to stabilize the EAP a little. I believe we EAP users provide valuable feedback and even save money on QA with better testing coverage.
I for one would like to be coddled a little in return.

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I think that folk used to ignore exceptions as long as they didn't crash the app.

Now they can report them with a button click, maybe that's why a lot more are showing up.

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good so now they have the ability to make idea rock solid! Dosn't change the feeling I have that this EAP is not as solid as the previous round

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Joey Edelstein wrote:

good so now they have the ability to make idea rock solid! Dosn't change the feeling I have that this EAP is not as solid as the previous round

yeah I certainly didn't always report them because sometimes they would
happen in the console and I wouldn't see them, or be in the middle of
something and didn't want to stop my work. This way, it's easy to report.

The 944 build does have some real issues especially when it comes to
debugging JSP code. I see that some of the issues I've uncovered have
been reported, part of the issues are with exceptions thrown, so I'm
waiting for the next build to see if it's better. In the mean time I
just need to quit and restart IDEA to shake things out.

R

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JSP debugging will come in next EAP build.

"Robert S. Sfeir" <no_mail@jetbrains.com> wrote in message news:blh4kc$sg3$2@is.intellij.net...

Joey Edelstein wrote:

>

good so now they have the ability to make idea rock solid! Dosn't change the feeling I have that this EAP is not as solid as

the previous round

yeah I certainly didn't always report them because sometimes they would
happen in the console and I wouldn't see them, or be in the middle of
something and didn't want to stop my work. This way, it's easy to report.

>

The 944 build does have some real issues especially when it comes to
debugging JSP code. I see that some of the issues I've uncovered have
been reported, part of the issues are with exceptions thrown, so I'm
waiting for the next build to see if it's better. In the mean time I
just need to quit and restart IDEA to shake things out.

>

R

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Stanislav, do you mean JSR45 support or do you mean simply fixing what's
busted right now?

I was going to file a feature request to get JSR45 out the door with
Aurora because the Jakarta site has the only build of Tomcat we can use
right now in their Archives and the 5.0 version is already in beta, and
pretty usable. Any chance we can get JSR45 support for Aurora?

R

Stanislav Davydov (JetBrains) wrote:

JSP debugging will come in next EAP build.

"Robert S. Sfeir" <no_mail@jetbrains.com> wrote in message news:blh4kc$sg3$2@is.intellij.net...

>>Joey Edelstein wrote:
>>
>>
>>>good so now they have the ability to make idea rock solid! Dosn't change the feeling I have that this EAP is not as solid as


the previous round

>>yeah I certainly didn't always report them because sometimes they would
>>happen in the console and I wouldn't see them, or be in the middle of
>>something and didn't want to stop my work. This way, it's easy to report.
>>
>>The 944 build does have some real issues especially when it comes to
>>debugging JSP code. I see that some of the issues I've uncovered have
>>been reported, part of the issues are with exceptions thrown, so I'm
>>waiting for the next build to see if it's better. In the mean time I
>>just need to quit and restart IDEA to shake things out.
>>
>>R
>>



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I mean recovering of old functionality only.
With some bug fixing and improvements :)

About JSR45, sorry, I'm not competent in this question :(

"Robert S. Sfeir" <no_mail@jetbrains.com> wrote in message news:blh549$sg3$3@is.intellij.net...

Stanislav, do you mean JSR45 support or do you mean simply fixing what's
busted right now?

>

I was going to file a feature request to get JSR45 out the door with
Aurora because the Jakarta site has the only build of Tomcat we can use
right now in their Archives and the 5.0 version is already in beta, and
pretty usable. Any chance we can get JSR45 support for Aurora?

>

R

>

Stanislav Davydov (JetBrains) wrote:

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JSP debugging will come in next EAP build.

>

"Robert S. Sfeir" <no_mail@jetbrains.com> wrote in message news:blh4kc$sg3$2@is.intellij.net...

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>>Joey Edelstein wrote:
>>
>>
>>>good so now they have the ability to make idea rock solid! Dosn't change the feeling I have that this EAP is not as solid as
>

the previous round

>
>>yeah I certainly didn't always report them because sometimes they would
>>happen in the console and I wouldn't see them, or be in the middle of
>>something and didn't want to stop my work. This way, it's easy to report.
>>
>>The 944 build does have some real issues especially when it comes to
>>debugging JSP code. I see that some of the issues I've uncovered have
>>been reported, part of the issues are with exceptions thrown, so I'm
>>waiting for the next build to see if it's better. In the mean time I
>>just need to quit and restart IDEA to shake things out.
>>
>>R
>>
>
>
>

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On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 09:11:46 +0000, Joey Edelstein wrote:

I just had a look at the tracker and saw that since it's release yesterday
there have already been around 120 Exceptions reported for build 944.
While much of this may be "noise" in all I have found this EAP much less
stable then the Aridana EAP and while I really like the new features and
am willing to except some instability I have been having problems working
with this EAP. I would really like to see an effort to stabilize the EAP a
little. I believe we EAP users provide valuable feedback and even save
money on QA with better testing coverage. I for one would like to be
coddled a little in return.


I wonder how many exceptions Ariadna would have had if there was automated
anal-retentive exception bug posting as well...


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Again I don't care. I do care that I could work with Aridana almost all the time and have had major problems with Aurora I have had a lot of problems. The exceptions are just a good way to bring the point home!

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You can have that feeling but it doesn't mean you're right.

Doesn't mean you're wrong either.

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i have had very little problems with aurora releases. I think two builds didn't work so good, but hey, it's eap, if i want no bugs i'll use major releases only

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As always if you aren't man enough for the EAP go back to 3.0

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Funny I thought programmers needed intelligence not machismo.

In case you don't get the point the EAP is not just for thrill seekers it serves an important function for both IntelliJ and us.
It helps IntelliJ get good feedback early on and reduce the number of bugs in the final release.
It allows us to help bring up issues that are important to us early enough so they can be addressed.
All that can't happen if the EAP is so frustrating to use that we don't.
I don't expect it to be production level I do expect it to be unusable!

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Well said, but I think you meant 'usable' ....

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As always if you aren't man enough for the EAP go back to 3.0

LOL!! .... :-D

When did programming become an extreme sport??!!


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Next project for IntelliJ a text editor that writes what you think not what you type :)

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"Rayz" <no_mail@jetbrains.com> a écrit dans le message de
news:16773794.1065513561730.JavaMail.itn@is.intellij.net...

As always if you aren't man enough for the EAP go back to 3.0


There are also women developers !
So should they stick with 3.0 ?

;)

Guillaume


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