Custom IDEA keyboard stickers

Hi!

We've discussed custom IDEA keyboard stickers here at IntelliJ plenty of
times. Anyone wants to share ideas on this topic? Anyone wants to
participate in design? Anyone knows a company to order custom stickers?

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> Anyone wants to share ideas on this topic?

I'd stick a "Peace" on
, and an "War" on Cancel (Esc)

Alain

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What do you mean by keyboard stickers?
Stickers on normal keyboard, or maybe some
kind of Idea Referenced Card stuck (let's say)
to the monitor....?


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Hi!

>

We've discussed custom IDEA keyboard stickers here at IntelliJ plenty of
times. Anyone wants to share ideas on this topic? Anyone wants to
participate in design? Anyone knows a company to order custom stickers?

>

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Best regards,
Mike Aizatsky.
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JetBrains, Inc / IntelliJ Software
http://www.intellij.com
"Develop with pleasure!"

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I think they are referring to the pieces of plastic that fit around the f-1 to f-12 keys and have words above them saying what they do.

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First I think it's a good idea.

Second, I was envisioning a nice template you can throw over your
keyboard so you can see all the shortcuts.

I don't know that I'd want to have a sticker on each key.

I would also be OK with one rectangular template which you can either
put on your monitor or lay at the top of the keyboard.

Hey maybe a JetBrains Keyboard with the keys already imprinted with
shortcuts! :) (That would suck since there would be no way to update
the keyboard unless you bought replacement keys... hehehe interesting
business to be in now that I think of it)

R

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What do you mean by keyboard stickers?


Stickers with additional information. E.g. the sticker on M key will show:

1. M key itself
2. "inl. meth." text in blue (the common color for Ctrl+Alt modifier)
3. "scr. center" text in green (the common color for Ctr modifier)

And so forth...

Some colors might also have some nice background (based on some to be
developed principle).

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"Michal Szklanowski" <szklanowski@acn.waw.pl> wrote in message
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What do you mean by keyboard stickers?
Stickers on normal keyboard, or maybe some
kind of Idea Referenced Card stuck (let's say)
to the monitor....?

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>

U¿ytkownik "Mike Aizatsky (JetBrains)" <Mike.Aizatsky@intellij.com>

napisa³

w wiadomo¶ci news:blcg0o$2iu$1@is.intellij.net...

Hi!

>

We've discussed custom IDEA keyboard stickers here at IntelliJ plenty of
times. Anyone wants to share ideas on this topic? Anyone wants to
participate in design? Anyone knows a company to order custom stickers?

>

--
Best regards,
Mike Aizatsky.
------------------------------
JetBrains, Inc / IntelliJ Software
http://www.intellij.com
"Develop with pleasure!"

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Some colors might also have some nice background


I mean 'some keys'.

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Best regards,
Mike Aizatsky.
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JetBrains, Inc / IntelliJ Software
http://www.intellij.com
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Mike Aizatsky (JetBrains) wrote:

> Stickers with additional information. E.g. the sticker on M key
will show:
> 1. M key itself
> 2. "inl. meth." text in blue (the common color for Ctrl+Alt modifier)
> 3. "scr. center" text in green (the common color for Ctr modifier)
>
> And so forth...

Would you use it?

I may be wrong, but I find - such a level of - stickering doesn't fit
IDEA, and it's users at all.
The cardboard stuff, above the Functions keys is ok.

The foldable printable default keymap available on the site is really
the best source, for learning.


When I can't remember a shortcut, I look it up in the menu. It works
fine because I know where to look.

On the keyboard though, there is no logical structure, so you'd have to
examine each key, one by one, decrypting the tiny green and red and
yellow and blue texts. No, not for me.

Alain


And once again, don't forget colourblind.

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All we need is a keyboard where every key is a 50x50 LCD :)

Amnon

"Robert S. Sfeir" <no_mail@jetbrains.com> wrote in message
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First I think it's a good idea.

>

Second, I was envisioning a nice template you can throw over your
keyboard so you can see all the shortcuts.

>

I don't know that I'd want to have a sticker on each key.

>

I would also be OK with one rectangular template which you can either
put on your monitor or lay at the top of the keyboard.

>

Hey maybe a JetBrains Keyboard with the keys already imprinted with
shortcuts! :) (That would suck since there would be no way to update
the keyboard unless you bought replacement keys... hehehe interesting
business to be in now that I think of it)

>

R

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Maybe I'm off-base, but I think these wind up being counter-productive. People, particularly developers, can hold lots of stuff in their heads, even if it's not in superspeedy L1/L2 cache it's still faster than looking at the keyboard. Just like touch typing: you'll never get proficient at it unless you force yourself to look at what you're typing rather than your fingers doing the work.

Aside: are there any developers who don't know how to touch type?

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"Mike Aizatsky (JetBrains)" <Mike.Aizatsky@intellij.com> wrote in message
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What do you mean by keyboard stickers?

>

Stickers with additional information. E.g. the sticker on M key will show:

>

1. M key itself
2. "inl. meth." text in blue (the common color for Ctrl+Alt modifier)
3. "scr. center" text in green (the common color for Ctr modifier)

>

And so forth...


No, I do not like this idea. I have standard US keyboard and I type in
english and in russian using "blind" method, thus my keyboard does not have
any stickers on the buttons, not even imprinted russian alphabet. I
personally hate stickers. The same way as I hate racy decals on cars or
funky thingy bouncing under your rearview mirror.

The russian/cyrillic market for these stickers will be limited, because each
button already holds 2-3 and even 4 symbols, so additional stuff will cause
havoc. The english/latin market -- I don't know, now and then companies like
WordPerfect or Symantec or Lotus produced these stickers. The best imho is
just the carton with the rectangular hole for function keys, which you can
put over top function keys. Still, I doubt a lot of people use this stuff,
it is ancient.

Rather create a good popup screen with keys (reflecting current mappings,
not just the standard mappings). Printable, yes. And to make memorizing
easier, change some mappings. For example, why context help is Shift-F1, and
quick help is Ctrl-Q? Ctrl-Q is standard "quit" key in a good lot of games
;) I remapped Ctrl-Q to Ctrl-F1, this is in line with Shift-F1. Why class
hierarchy is Ctrl-H, and call hierarchy is Ctrl-Alt-F8? Why Shift-F10 is
"Application/Run", but not the context menu, which is natural for Windows?

Just clean up the mapping, and no stickers would be needed.

Michael J.


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I personally wouldn't mind seeing an updated printable copy of the shortcut
keys. I have the 3.x one posted on my wall and it comes in handy. I think we
at least need to expand on that one to include all the new keys..

My 2 cents ;)

--Grant

"Mike Aizatsky (JetBrains)" <Mike.Aizatsky@intellij.com> wrote in message
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Hi!

>

We've discussed custom IDEA keyboard stickers here at IntelliJ plenty of
times. Anyone wants to share ideas on this topic? Anyone wants to
participate in design? Anyone knows a company to order custom stickers?

>

--
Best regards,
Mike Aizatsky.
------------------------------
JetBrains, Inc / IntelliJ Software
http://www.intellij.com
"Develop with pleasure!"

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i would probably try it and see how it works. Polo-shirts though, now that is something you could sell :)

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In article <blcmit$t5c$1@is.intellij.net>,
Alain Ravet <alain.ravet.list@wanadoo.be> wrote:

When I can't remember a shortcut, I look it up in the menu. It works
fine because I know where to look.


Unfortunately, some of IDEA's features aren't listed in any menu.

Perhaps fixing that problem would be easier than printing stickers...

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"charles decroes" <spam@decroes.com> wrote in message
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i would probably try it and see how it works. Polo-shirts though, now

that is something you could sell :)

with imprinted keymap? ;)


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Michael Jouravlev wrote:

"charles decroes" <spam@decroes.com> wrote in message
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>>i would probably try it and see how it works. Polo-shirts though, now


that is something you could sell :)

with imprinted keymap? ;)

hahaha... man this conversation has degenerated pretty fast... I guess
that gives jetbrains the answer! LOL

Personaly I'd like a long sleeved T-Shirt with the shortcuts printed on
the end of the sleeves, like a football quarterback (American Football
that is), so I can sneak a peek as I type, or look at the shortcut like
a QB looks up his play calls.

R

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Robert S. Sfeir wrote:

>> with imprinted keymap? ;)
>

hahaha... man this conversation has degenerated pretty fast... I
guess that gives jetbrains the answer! LOL
Personaly I'd like a long sleeved T-Shirt with the shortcuts printed
on the end of the sleeves,




Personally, I'd prefer bikinis - to offer - with imprinted keymaps on
the right locations, so I could practice my IDEA's shortcuts on the beach.
Who said touch-typing is for the nerds?

I really need some sleep : it's 3h30 AM.

Alain

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Why not to have a nice toolwindow which can be called up by some key
combination and will have all registered shortcuts organized nicely for
browsing:
- by functional area
- alphabetically
- search by description
possible even with hyperlinks to docs to help new users

"Mike Aizatsky (JetBrains)" <Mike.Aizatsky@intellij.com> wrote in message
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Hi!

>

We've discussed custom IDEA keyboard stickers here at IntelliJ plenty of
times. Anyone wants to share ideas on this topic? Anyone wants to
participate in design? Anyone knows a company to order custom stickers?

>

--
Best regards,
Mike Aizatsky.
------------------------------
JetBrains, Inc / IntelliJ Software
http://www.intellij.com
"Develop with pleasure!"

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No, I do not like this idea.


+1

But what about Reference card in keyboard layout (of course different
ones for US, RU or DE keyboards)? Maybe to much possible layouts...

Tom

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Why not to have a nice toolwindow which can be called
up by some key
combination and will have all registered shortcuts
organized nicely for
browsing:
- by functional area
- alphabetically
- search by description


- and by location on the keyboard

Would that be possible? (That way the system could possibly deal with different keyboard layouts dynamically.)

Regards,
Jens

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- and by location on the keyboard

Would that be possible? (That way the system could possibly deal with different keyboard layouts dynamically.)


Although I had a similar idea, I don't think any more, that's a good
one, because then Jetbrains need to know every different keyboard
layout. Even a German keyboard might not be fully the same as another
German keyboard. For example, sometimes the key is left to the
key, sometimes below.

BTW, this key-to-action mapping is a little bit weird. Typically you
need an action-to-key mapping.

Tom

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Alain Ravet wrote:

Robert S. Sfeir wrote:

>>> with imprinted keymap? ;)
>>
>>
>> hahaha... man this conversation has degenerated pretty fast... I
>> guess that gives jetbrains the answer! LOL
>> Personaly I'd like a long sleeved T-Shirt with the shortcuts printed
>> on the end of the sleeves,




Personally, I'd prefer bikinis - to offer - with imprinted keymaps on
the right locations, so I could practice my IDEA's shortcuts on the beach.
Who said touch-typing is for the nerds?

I really need some sleep : it's 3h30 AM.

Alain

haha... yes, I'll take 2 of those bikinis please... not for myself...

R

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Thomas Singer wrote:

>> - and by location on the keyboard
>> Would that be possible? (That way the system could possibly deal with
>> different keyboard layouts dynamically.)


Although I had a similar idea, I don't think any more, that's a good
one, because then Jetbrains need to know every different keyboard
layout. Even a German keyboard might not be fully the same as another
German keyboard. For example, sometimes the key is left to the
key, sometimes below.


Yeah I'll back this one up too... hit a couple of keys and popup a
little help window with the keys listed. have like 3 or 4 tabs that we
can switch between to look at the info in various ways.

+1

R

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What do you mean by keyboard stickers?


Stickers with additional information. E.g. the
sticker on M key will show:

1. M key itself
2. "inl. meth." text in blue (the common color for
Ctrl+Alt modifier)
3. "scr. center" text in green (the common color for
Ctr modifier)

And so forth...


Ugh! No! Stickers on every key would make the keyboard look a right mess. I use my computer for other things, too. To have it permanently cluttered up with peeling IntelliJ stickers is not the way forward.

Thinking about it, if the keyboard keys all need lots of stickers then I think I detect one of those "bad smells" that indicate a problem with the user interface.

And another thing... unless all the stickers were in transparent blue (or is it solid white, this year), I don't think you'll get many takers in the Mac camp.

Vince.

PS. My daughter started piano lessons a couple of weeks ago and has started putting lettered stickies on the piano keys. It might work, but it looks awful.

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+1

This sounds like a MUCH better solution than stickers (IMHO, of course!).

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+1

I think, that sticker in my mind is better that sticker on my keyboard. I don't look at keyboard then type.
I just remember all my using in IDEA shortcuts.

But for beginers in IDEA, the spesial Area map and IDEA Reference Card will be very needed. The Reference Card already exists (maybe must be updated). For "IDEA Keys Area Map" i mean special card on face photo of standard keyboard with colored areas - "Refactoring", "Code Complite", "Implement", "Generate", etc.

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Some think like this:



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