Feature Request - Tab Floating (good idea?)

Hi,

Before I add this to the tracker, I was wondering if anyone had any thoughts
on this + or -.

Im currently using Idea to build me client / server RMI application - this
means that I run both programs at the same time giving me 2 tabs in the run
window. I would like to be able to extract one of the tabs into a new window
(perhaps via a right click option) and have them display simultaniously side
by side / above each other.

If a 3rd application was run it could default to the inital window and the
ability to drag / send it to a different window of the same type (another
run window) would be great.

I know I could use the debug mode and run mode of application execution to
get them into different windows (and is what Im having to do) but isnt
useful if I want to run 3+ applications and view the outputs simultaniously.

All input appreciated

- Dan


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make two projects: one for the client and one for the server!!! additionally you can debug both(client and server) at the same time...

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make two projects: one for the client and one for the server!!!


can you have both projects open at the same time without opening to
instances of idea? As the server is also the client (dont ask) this wouldnt
make sense anyway... Im actually running 4 copies of the same code with
different config arguments.

additionally you can debug both(client and server) at the same time...


Ya , but I was hoping to avoid that - the debug window has alot more "junk"
on it that I dont need for just running


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can you have both projects open at the same time
without opening to instances of idea?


yes, just go to open project, select an other project and open it. IDEA ask you if you would like to open the project in a new frame!!!

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... new frame!!!


Michael, why you are screaming (3 exclamation marks)?

Tom

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do i screaming when i use 3 exclamation marks? by habit. it's a nice feature! but it would be nicer if the modal dialogs are only modal for its frame! ;)

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do i screaming when i use 3 exclamation marks? by habit. it's a nice

feature!

You mean that 3 exclamation marks are a nice feature ? LOL :-D

Guillaume


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I'm not convinced that multiple windows is the right way to address this problem. I think the general problem is to be able to view multiple "parts"/"tabs" of a a single major "tab" simultaneously. Another good example is the debugger, where I'd often love to see stack and console and frame simultaneously (or various other combos).

The project pane addresses this for the special case of showing structure simultaneously, and I use that often, openning and closing it depending on what kind of work I'm doing.

So why not generalize the idea? Allow the user to switch between "tabbed" viewing of subpanes and "paneled" viewing, with horizontal and vertical split-bars between the subpanes. I remember this a "useless" feature of various editors once upon a time (I specifically remember the Mac's MPW doing this). This way, you could end up with something like this:

or


This would be much more in line with the paneled-workspace style of screen real-estate management, though your screen could easily become cluttered to an absurd extreme. On the other hand, when I do "serious" debugging, I open up the debug pane to more than half the window, anyway.

- Mike

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cool... add a feature request to the tracker!

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This would be much more in line with the paneled-workspace style of screen

real-estate

management, though your screen could easily become cluttered to an absurd

extreme. On the other

hand, when I do "serious" debugging, I open up the debug pane to more than

half the window,

anyway.


I have the fortunate experiance of working with 3 17" monitors - I use the
central monitor for coding / main idea window, the left monitor for project,
structure, todo and messages and the right monitor for the run / debug
windows.

So the cluttering wouldnt be much of an issue to me. Your idea is appealing
and would be useful to me personally in a few situations, however I still
like the idea of being able to rip off tabs (as a general idea) into their
own floating window.

If it could expand to all tabs (tabs in the message / cvs / code windows) so
that you could view two .java files simultanioulsy - that would be even
better!


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Dan Hardiker wrote:

I have the fortunate experiance of working with 3 17" monitors - I use the
central monitor for coding / main idea window, the left monitor for project,
structure, todo and messages and the right monitor for the run / debug
windows.


I'm curious: How well does this work with IDEA, or with Java in
general? Any major problems?

I'm currently running on a single screen but it would be possible to
connect a second screen to the graphics card. Might be worth an
experiment some time.

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I work on two monitors (22" and 17") and there are no issues at all. One monitor shows the main window with editor and class structure, the other shows the project view, the output console, and the todo list. Both Java and IDEA have no problems with this.

The whole thing doesn't even cost the world. 100$ for the graphics card (I have a Matrox G550) and a second monitor. But it works much better on WinXP or Win98 than on Windows2000. Don't know how this works on Linux, Mac, or other OSes.

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I have the fortunate experiance of working with 3 17" monitors - I use

the

central monitor for coding / main idea window, the left monitor for

project,

structure, todo and messages and the right monitor for the run / debug
windows.

>

I'm curious: How well does this work with IDEA, or with Java in
general? Any major problems?


Works brilliantly ... just set most of the windows into float mode and move
them around.

I'm currently running on a single screen but it would be possible to
connect a second screen to the graphics card. Might be worth an
experiment some time.


Once you have two or more, you never go back ... monitors that is ;)


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Michael Seele wrote:

do i screaming when i use 3 exclamation marks? by habit. it's a nice feature! but it would be nicer if the modal dialogs are only modal for its frame! ;)


Modal dialogs being limited in their modality to just their parent frame
instead of all windows in the application is currently a Sun bug/feature
request. Can't remember the bug id though...

Ciao,
Gordon

--
Gordon Tyler (Software Developer)
Quest Software <http://java.quest.com/>
260 King Street East, Toronto, Ontario M5A 4L5, Canada
Voice: 416-643-4846 | Fax: 416-594-1919

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"Gordon Tyler" <gordon.tyler@quest.com> wrote:

Modal dialogs being limited in their modality to just their parent frame
instead of all windows in the application is currently a Sun bug/feature
request. Can't remember the bug id though...


Here it is: http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/bugParade/bugs/4080029.html

Just in case somebody wants to vote for it ;)


Sascha


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Sascha Weinreuter wrote:

"Gordon Tyler" <gordon.tyler@quest.com> wrote:

>>Modal dialogs being limited in their modality to just their parent frame
>>instead of all windows in the application is currently a Sun bug/feature
>>request. Can't remember the bug id though...


Here it is: http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/bugParade/bugs/4080029.html

Just in case somebody wants to vote for it ;)


I see I have voted for it.

Wow... I just noticed the submit date: 1997! Those Sun guys sure move
fast... not.

Ciao,
Gordon

--
Gordon Tyler (Software Developer)
Quest Software <http://java.quest.com/>
260 King Street East, Toronto, Ontario M5A 4L5, Canada
Voice: 416-643-4846 | Fax: 416-594-1919

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? wrote:

I work on two monitors (22" and 17") and there are no issues at all.
One monitor shows the main window with editor and class structure,
the other shows the project view, the output console, and the todo
list. Both Java and IDEA have no problems with this.


I just went and borrowed another monitor and connected it to the G450
card in my computer. Now that I have uninstalled and reinstalled the
driver and rebooted Windows 42 times it seems to work fine. I'll just
have to see how it feels for a few days before I decide whether to keep it.

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I already submitted a tracker request to be able to 'float' editor windows
just like you can tool windows... you can search for it and add your
votes...


"Dan Hardiker" <dhardiker@staff.firstcreative.net> wrote in message
news:bai5qe$139$1@is.intellij.net...

Hi,

>

Before I add this to the tracker, I was wondering if anyone had any

thoughts

on this + or -.

>

Im currently using Idea to build me client / server RMI application - this
means that I run both programs at the same time giving me 2 tabs in the

run

window. I would like to be able to extract one of the tabs into a new

window

(perhaps via a right click option) and have them display simultaniously

side

by side / above each other.

>

If a 3rd application was run it could default to the inital window and the
ability to drag / send it to a different window of the same type (another
run window) would be great.

>

I know I could use the debug mode and run mode of application execution to
get them into different windows (and is what Im having to do) but isnt
useful if I want to run 3+ applications and view the outputs

simultaniously.
>

All input appreciated

>

- Dan

>
>


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