Make "Go to Symbol" shortcut Ctrl-Alt-N ?

Ctrl-Alt-N is unfortunately in use already (Refactor | Inline..).

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"Stephen Kelvin" <mail@gremlin.info> wrote in message
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Is it just because my fine controlled motion is a little weak? I can't

type Ctrl-Alt-Shift N without getting a cramp in the fingers.

What's wrong with choosing "Ctrl-Alt N" instead?

Oops, sorry. I have mapped all those Ctrl-Alt-... refactor shortcuts to simply Alt-... (which off course makes the menu mnemonics unusable, but I don't care).
So I didn't notice that.

> I can't type Ctrl-Alt-Shift N without getting a cramp ..
Did you try typing with one hand (see attached picture)? I find it pretty easy this way (I don't know your keyboard though).

Alain Ravet

Funny keyboard that you have there: "AZERTY..." ???
My shift and control keys are too small and also there is a windows key between control and alt.
I just remapped the action.

Stephen Kelvin wrote:
> Funny keyboard that you have there: "AZERTY..." ???

Yes, I know. Old Europe.. :)

Alain Ravet

Yes, I know. Old Europe.. :)

We should all use a Dvorak keyboard, we would type even quicker !

Guillaume

> My .. and
> there is a windows key between control and alt.

Here (see attached image) is a way with such a keyboard.

Alain Ravet

Guillaume Laforge wrote:
> We should all use a Dvorak keyboard, we would type even quicker !

Which Dvorak? US? FR? GE?...

Alain

Which Dvorak? US? FR? GE?...

Oh Alain, you got me !
After I had sent the previous post, I recalled that there were different
versions of the Dvorak keyboard.
But it was too late...
You're so "perspicace" ;)

Guillaume

Guillaume Laforge wrote:
> Oh Alain, you got me !

Revenge. Sweet revenge :)

Alain

Guillaume Laforge wrote:

We should all use a Dvorak keyboard, we would type even quicker !

I've read that the only speed trials in which typists using Dvorak were
faster than QWERTY, were the speed trials which Dvorak himself supervised.

Interesting summation:
http://www.independent.org/tii/news/liebowitz_economist.html

You can find more about it by googling for "dvorak qwerty myth".

Ciao,
Gordon

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Gordon Tyler wrote:
> I've read that the only speed trials in which typists using
> Dvorak were faster ..

I've read - somewhere - that Dvorak keyboards make it a lot easier on
your wrist.

Alain Ravet

Alain Ravet wrote:

Gordon Tyler wrote:
> I've read that the only speed trials in which typists using
> Dvorak were faster ..

I've read - somewhere - that Dvorak keyboards make it a lot easier on
your wrist.

That may be. QWERTY itself is not without its own problems (unbalanced
between left and right, heavy on the top row, etc.).

Ciao,
Gordon

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Maybe not faster, but sure more comfortable. I'm a Dvorak typist, and have been a qwerty typist before (duh).

Sure I type faster now. But that's probably due the new learning. I learned qwerty about 7 years old, and had some really bad habits. I learned dvorak about 20 years old, and has decided to learn the "right way". So I'm much more disciplined about hitting the keys with the right finger in dvorak than with qwerty.

So you should really question dvorak typing speed. However, the ease on your wrist is undeniable. I feel much better on dvorak than on qwerty. By the way, I'm talking about US dvorak, but I usually type in portuguese too. The US dvorak layout may not be perfect for portuguese typing, but sure is better than qwerty.

Marcus Brito wrote:
> Maybe not faster, but sure more comfortable. I'm a Dvorak typist,
> and have been a qwerty typist before (duh).

Marcus,

How hard is it when you have to work on another keyboard, and switch
back to Dvorak.

Alain Ravet

Well, I never really needed to work on another keyboard for extended periods of time since I learned dvorak.

Sometimes I type of friends' keyboards when discussing something or showing examples. While I think I'll never type on a qwerty keyboard as I typed before, I'm not completly baffled by one. I'm still able to touch type on a qwerty keyboard, yet slower.

Thanks to all major OS vendors, dvorak layout is everywhere. When I get a new working position, I just configure the dvorak layout for the keyboard, weather I'm using Windows or Linux. I'm not sure about MacOS (I'd love to know, ah, my dreams of buying a Mac).

The downside is that looking at my keyboard (a standard qwerty keyboard) tells nothing about it's real layout. I need to be able to type without even thinking about where the keys are (which I found surprisingly easy after some time). He, and my coworkers found this funny :)

Maybe I'm lucky. I hope I never go to work on a place that won't let me change my keyboard layout.

Hm, maybe I really haven't aswered your question in the above post. So, summing it up:

It's a small hassle to type on another keyboard, but nothing serious. I can type on then fine if I don't do that for a long time.

Switching back to dvorak is no problem since I never spent much time on other keyboards since I learned dvorak anyway.