Timeframe for GUI builder

Hi.

I'm sorry if this has been answered before.

I'm wondering about when the GUI builder will be a part of the IDE? I'm working in a time limited project and I'd very much like to try to use the GUI builder for some aspects of the project but that means that I'll have to wait until it will become a part of the EAP releases. Since I'm in the middle of defining a project plan now, I'd very much like to know when you plan on including it.

Kind regards, Stefan Freyr.

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OK. On the 19 of March they said "probably have to wait a month". I'm wondering how accurate that is.

Do you guys (@ IntelliJ) have any better estimate now?

Kind regards, Stefan Freyr.

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Even if Intellij estimate time for GuiBuilder more accurate, it won't be the appearing time of fully usable and production stable tool. As you can see new CVS integration already available at first preview but according to comments it's far from completely working.
It's mean that you can use GuiBuilder in your plan only when Aurora release will be available or near it.
All timeframes declared by Intellij guys in forums usually less then real timeframes twice or even more cause it's non official information.

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I do realize that once it appears it won't be in it's final form. I have (tried to) use the new CVS support and found it rather limited I must admit but I do recognize that this is an EAP and I accept that.

But in my defense: IntelliJ has always been very careful to include a way to transform older formats of source files when they change the format. For example, the form of the project files has changed quite a bit and I've always been able to upgrade my old projects to the new format automatically. I expect this to be the same with the GUI builder. Given that this holds, I see no harm in me using the GUI builder in my project... If I find a deficiency, I'll let them know about it and hopefully they'll fix it in the next release. But as long as it's not there at all, I can't use it... and due to the nature of the GUI builder (that is, that it produces XML formatted files instead of working directly on top of the source code) I have to make a decision about delaying my efforts in creating a GUI until I can use the GUI builder because one thing I do not want is a part of my GUI written by hand and some other part of it done by the IntelliJ GUI designer.

Another matter is that the GUI builder has been in use by the IntelliJ team for some time now (I understand that they actually use it to create IDEA) so it really can't be that unstable when it is released.

I hope this makes it clearer why I'm curious to know when it will become available.

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On Thu, 03 Apr 2003 11:30:28 +0000, Stefan Freyr Stefansson wrote:

I've always been able to upgrade my old projects to the new format
automatically. I expect this to be the same with the GUI builder. Given
that this holds, I see no harm in me using the GUI builder in my
project... If I find a deficiency, I'll let them know about it and
hopefully they'll fix it in the next release. But as long as it's not


Parts of the GUI builder seem to be hidden away already. I just opened a
file and told Idea that it was a "GUI Form" ( one of the listed file types
), and noticed in the Tools menu a "migrate" item, which seems to migrate
really old swing code to new code ( package wise ).

Will be interesting to see what else pops up around the place...

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Mark Derricutt wrote:

Parts of the GUI builder seem to be hidden away already. I just opened a
file and told Idea that it was a "GUI Form" ( one of the listed file types
), and noticed in the Tools menu a "migrate" item, which seems to migrate
really old swing code to new code ( package wise ).


That migration tool has been part of IDEA since version 2.5 (if not
earlier!). It's a tool for doing bulk package renames; IDEA comes with a
mapping for converting the old com.sun.java.swing.* packages to the current
javax.swing.* ones. Nice finding little things like that every once in a
while, isn't it? :)

Will be interesting to see what else pops up around the place...


I agree - I can't wait!

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On Thu, 03 Apr 2003 14:43:08 +0100, Vilya Harvey wrote:

That migration tool has been part of IDEA since version 2.5 (if not
earlier!). It's a tool for doing bulk package renames; IDEA comes with a
mapping for converting the old com.sun.java.swing.* packages to the
current javax.swing.* ones. Nice finding little things like that every
once in a while, isn't it? :)


Oh neat - I'd never spotted it in the menu's before - I must just be blind
;)

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