[Fwd: Re: IDEA release]

Managed to get IDEA a mention on Elliote's website-
http://www.cafeaulait.org/

Jon

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Subject: Re: IDEA release
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 13:15:43 -0500
From: Elliotte Rusty Harold <elharo@metalab.unc.edu>
To: Jon Steelman <jon@cc.gatech.edu>
References: <3DF0208A.8040709@cc.gatech.edu>



>Elliote,
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>IDEA 3.0.1 was released yesterday. I don't remember seeing mention
>of last month's big IDEA 3.0 release on Cafe au Lait (I'm a regular
>reader), so I thought I would let you know about the 3.0.1 release.
>Seems like you had issues with the Intentions feature (the
>lightbulbs aka Popup Hints) when you gave it a whirl during the EAP
>program. They since have made it more convenient to turn off a
>category of Intentions by clicking on the lightbulb in the popup
>list.
>
>Cheers,
>Jon

Thanks for the tip
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Elliotte Rusty Harold

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XML in a Nutshell, 2nd Edition (O'Reilly, 2002)

http://www.cafeconleche.org/books/xian2/

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN%3D0596002920/cafeaulaitA/

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Read Cafe au Lait for Java News: http://www.cafeaulait.org/

Read Cafe con Leche for XML News: http://www.cafeconleche.org/

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I don't see any release announcement for 3.0.1 in the j.i.announcements
newsgroup? Was this release only announced on the website? if so, could
the IntelliJ guys please post such announcements to the newsgroup(s) as
well since I don't check the website on a regular basis but I read the
newsgroups every day.

Jon Steelman wrote:

Managed to get IDEA a mention on Elliote's website-
http://www.cafeaulait.org/

Jon

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: IDEA release
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 13:15:43 -0500
From: Elliotte Rusty Harold <elharo@metalab.unc.edu>
To: Jon Steelman <jon@cc.gatech.edu>
References: <3DF0208A.8040709@cc.gatech.edu>


>> Elliote,
>>
>> IDEA 3.0.1 was released yesterday. I don't remember seeing mention of
>> last month's big IDEA 3.0 release on Cafe au Lait (I'm a regular
>> reader), so I thought I would let you know about the 3.0.1 release.
>> Seems like you had issues with the Intentions feature (the lightbulbs
>> aka Popup Hints) when you gave it a whirl during the EAP program. They
>> since have made it more convenient to turn off a category of
>> Intentions by clicking on the lightbulb in the popup list.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Jon


Thanks for the tip


--
Gordon Tyler
Software Developer, R&D
Sitraka (now part of Quest Software)
"Performance is Mission Critical"

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the IntelliJ guys please post such announcements to the newsgroup(s) as
well since I don't check the website on a regular basis but I read the
newsgroups every day.


The notification about the build was first posted to EAP, thus you should have noticed it before the build was officially published
on the site. EAP downloads are always the latest builds.
Even if you don't check the website, IDEA 3.0 will do that for you and notify you (of course, if you haven't disabled the feature)
about the update.

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Best regards,
Eugene Zhuravlev
JetBrains, Inc, http://www.intellij.com
"Develop with pleasure!"


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Eugene Zhuravlev wrote:

The notification about the build was first posted to EAP


Where? There is no message about IDEA 3.0.1 or build 687 in
j.i.announcements or j.i.e.announcements.

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Where? There is no message about IDEA 3.0.1 or build 687 in
j.i.announcements or j.i.e.announcements.


There's an anouncement of 688 instead.

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Best regards,
Eugene Zhuravlev
JetBrains, Inc, http://www.intellij.com
"Develop with pleasure!"

"Jonas Kvarnstr?m" <jonkv@ida.liu.se> wrote in message news:3DF4BE9C.3060707@ida.liu.se...

Eugene Zhuravlev wrote:

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The notification about the build was first posted to EAP

>

Where? There is no message about IDEA 3.0.1 or build 687 in
j.i.announcements or j.i.e.announcements.

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Eugene Zhuravlev wrote:

Even if you don't check the website, IDEA 3.0 will do that for you and notify you (of course, if you haven't disabled the feature)
about the update.


since the feature can be disbaled by mistake (we're all too eager to
dismiss dialogs that opens while we mean to do something else) the IDE
settings need to expose that setting!

also, an explicit menu entry (ge under help) would be good.

Edo

PS - if you like this idea for IDEA, please open a SCR, I'm too buzy ;)

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Eugene Zhuravlev wrote:

The notification about the build was first posted to EAP, thus you should have noticed it before the build was officially published
on the site. EAP downloads are always the latest builds.


In j.i.e.announcements I saw:

- Build 686 is available, "This is a candidate build for IDEA 3.0.1"
- Build 688 is available

No mention that build 688 was the final build for version 3.0.1.

Even if you don't check the website, IDEA 3.0 will do that for you and notify you (of course, if you haven't disabled the feature)
about the update.


I did disable it because it was popping up every time I started IDEA and
it annoyed me. It would be better if it only checked once a week, or it
was more quiet about it. I'm also creating a Tracker request to expose
IDE settings and a menu entry for invoking the check manually.

Ciao,
Gordon

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Gordon Tyler
Software Developer, R&D
Sitraka (now part of Quest Software)
"Performance is Mission Critical"

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Gordon,

I did disable it because it was popping up every time I started IDEA and
it annoyed me


There's a check "Don't ask me again".

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Best regards,
Mike Aizatsky.
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JetBrains, Inc / IntelliJ Software
http://www.intellij.com
"Develop with pleasure!"


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Mike Aizatsky wrote:
>>I did disable it because it was popping up every time I started IDEA and
>>it annoyed me


There's a check "Don't ask me again".


Then I probably used that. Does that disable the actual new version
check itself or just the dialog?

I've logged a tracker request about this stuff:
http://www.intellij.net/tracker/idea/viewSCR?publicId=8135

Ciao,
Gordon

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Gordon Tyler
Software Developer, R&D
Sitraka (now part of Quest Software)
"Performance is Mission Critical"

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It just remember your choice. If you've hit "yes" - IDEA will check once in
two days for updates. For some reasons update xml was updated only today.
So, your IDEA version should tell you in the nearest days that new version
is available.

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Mike Aizatsky.
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JetBrains, Inc / IntelliJ Software
http://www.intellij.com
"Develop with pleasure!"


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Mike Aizatsky wrote:

It just remember your choice. If you've hit "yes" - IDEA will check
once in two days for updates. For some reasons update xml was updated
only today. So, your IDEA version should tell you in the nearest days
that new version is available.


Does IDEA check now and then whether a new version is available while it
is running? Or are you making some kind of strange assumption that
people actually quit IDEA occasionally? :)

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Jonas,

Does IDEA check now and then whether a new version is available while it
is running?


No, it checks only on startup?

BTW, what's the uptime of your IDEA?

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Mike Aizatsky.
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JetBrains, Inc / IntelliJ Software
http://www.intellij.com
"Develop with pleasure!"


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Mike Aizatsky wrote:

BTW, what's the uptime of your IDEA?


Right now, only a few days, since I recently updated to build 686. And
it's time to update to 688 soon (or maybe I'll wait until 689).

But I haven't had a crash for a long time and I never shut down IDEA
except for updates (or for installing a new plugin, which I've done once
or twice), so until now I've always learned about new updates through
the newsgroups rather than through the built-in update check.

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I also usually get at least a full day out of it... and sometimes two...

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BTW, what's the uptime of your IDEA?


The rare times when I have to quit IDEA are :
- when I want to install a new build,
- when I want to install a new plugin,
- when Norton Antivirus or Windows Update ask me to reboot.
That is to say that usually, IDEA is up and running several days long.

Guillaume


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BTW, what's the uptime of your IDEA?


Mine typically stays up Monday when I boot through Friday when I shut down. I install the latest EAP build each Monday and run it all week, unless I see a must-have feature or bugfix in an interim release.

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Hi Rob,

Are you saying, that your computer is running around 105 hours a week
(starting 8:00 monday and shutting down friday 17:00; times are just
examples)? When do you sleep? ;)

Tom

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Thomas Singer wrote:

Hi Rob,

Are you saying, that your computer is running around 105 hours a week


Are you saying that computers can be turned off? Strange ideas... ;)

Last time I turned off my computer at work was when they were doing some
electrical installations about a year ago.

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Likewise. My machine at work currently has an uptime of 18 days and 20
hours. It would be longer except I had to reboot to install a Microsoft
security update. Bah.

I just log out every evening before I go home. On Win2k that's enough of
a "reset" to prevent most weird problems that one gets by running
applications for long periods of time.

I do run IDEA the whole day though -- about 7-8 hours. It's just one
project though, so I don't suffer from any memory leaks that occur when
switching between projects (if any).

Jonas Kvarnstr?m wrote:

Thomas Singer wrote:

>> Hi Rob,
>>
>> Are you saying, that your computer is running around 105 hours a week


Are you saying that computers can be turned off? Strange ideas... ;)

Last time I turned off my computer at work was when they were doing some
electrical installations about a year ago.


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Gordon Tyler
Software Developer, R&D
Sitraka (now part of Quest Software)
"Performance is Mission Critical"

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"Mike Aizatsky" <mike@intellij.com> wrote in message
news:at4d4c$mjg$1@is.intellij.net...

BTW, what's the uptime of your IDEA?


Last time it was about 3 weeks. ;) Rebooted after installing new Windows
Service Pack.


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BTW, what's the uptime of your IDEA?


I have a typical uptime of 2-6 hours before bugs, filed as SCRs #7592 and #7595, begin to develop. Then I have to restart IDEA. This odd behaviour does not really depend on number of simultaneously opened projects.

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