Have you switched from Eclipse to IDEA or maybe the other way ;)

Why? Interested to hear your top reason to choose IDEA (or Eclipse)!

I'm specially interested if you also are doing your development on the Mac OS X platform (as i am).

/Lennart

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Not exaclty the answer you are looking for but I switched from JBuilder. The company I work for bought us JBuilder, which is pretty good but just doesn't do what I need. I even had to pay for intellij myself :(
I work on an application that has had many developers work on it. Most of these developers thought their way was best and tried to do massive conversions. I think this poor app has been through 3 different gui frameworks. Each conversion was only done halfway, so the result is messy and sometimes very confusing code. One developer who was there for years made everything public so he could call whatever he wanted (that really hurts). As you can imaging I have a big mess that I am trying to clean up. Intellij helps me do the simple things like finding unused variables and restricting access to methods and variables. I use to spend hours doing what intellij can do in minutes. It has also helped me do some huge refactorings that I would not have attempted by myself otherwise. I did two last week that we had been scared to do for years. Sorry for the long reply, but that is why I switched. I have tried eclipse but it just doesn't code the way I do (if that makes sense) :)

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Those were some of the same reasons I switched, in my case from NetBeans to IDEA.

There are simply things that used to be high risk (like refactoring) that IDEA allows me to do with complete confidence.

IDEA saves me time. For me, refactoring along with usages and other inspections is why I use IDEA.

Something else Charles said also rings true for me - IDEA lets me code the way I want to, it doesn't try and hide things from me with Wizards. I think someone else coined the phrase "by coders, for coders".

IDEA is the only piece of software I've bought out of my own pocket - I couldn't do without it when my employer wouldn't buy licenses.

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On Fri, 29 Nov 2002 12:05:54 +0000, Lennart Petersson wrote:

Why? Interested to hear your top reason to choose IDEA (or Eclipse)!
I'm specially interested if you also are doing your development on the Mac
OS X platform (as i am).


Shockingly I switched from JEdit daily cvs builds.

JEdit kicks the mighty arse off pretty much any programmers editor
outthere, java based or native. With ALOT of active plugins being
developed and maintained, but dispite the numerous plugins for project
management/class completion/refactoring there isn't a nice unified feel
about them - which is one of things I really love about Idea (and the fact
that they all work!) :)

Mark

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I switched from IDEA to Eclipse about half a year ago, and then once I got myself another computer which Eclipse wasn't fast enough on, I switched back. :)

I did it because strangely, Eclipse runs a lot faster on a faster (1GHz+) computer, and IDEA runs a lot faster on a slower (300-odd MHz) computer. It has to have something to do with the windowing system getting less time to redraw on the slower computer.

The other reason I switched in the first place was that Eclipse doesn't cost money. It's a pain that you have to pay for IDEA even if the project you're working on will be given away. I don't know what I'll do once my evaluation period is up again.

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"Trejkaz Xaoza" <jiveadmin@jetbrains.com> wrote in message
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The other reason I switched in the first place was that Eclipse
doesn't cost money. It's a pain that you have to pay for IDEA
even if the project you're working on will be given away. I
don't know what I'll do once my evaluation period is up again.


A free version of IDEA that is only allowed to be used to create projects
released under GPL or something would kick butt. (Though I don't know how
IntelliJ could enforce it.) On one project I work on, my employer pays for
my copy of IDEA. The other is an open source project for a non-profit group,
and we have to switch to Bizarro IDEA (Eclipse) because of the money issue.

However, I completely understand why a company that has to pay the salaries
of lots of people and pay for rent, computers and bandwidth doesn't want to
give software away.


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One other thing I'll add is that IntelliJ is the first ide I have ever used that I don't use plugins for. I'm not saying it doesn't have great plugins, but simply put "It meets my needs". With every other ide i find myself constantly trying to find plugins to make me more productive (i guess if i stopped reading these forums and got back to work i would be more productive too )

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I'm finishing at my company soon so I will be leaving my IDEA license behind. This means I'm going to have to switch to Eclipse or pay the license fee, which I'm not prepared to do whilst I'm unemployed. This is a real shame as I've tried Eclipse three times now and can't stand it. I'm not sure why, it just rubs me up the wrong way.

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