A personal license is $249, why so much?

First of all, I am not whinning or complaing about the cost.

I just would like to understand why the price is set at $249 for the personal license.

I don't have any issues paying for it, I would just like a clear understanding of what I am getting for $249.

I know I am purchasing an excellent IDE, but what about customer and tech support?

Are these services up to par?

Purchasing an Java IDE could be seen as somewhat foolish since Eclipse and Netbeans is free, so I am trying to justify the personal license cost.

Thanks,

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Hello Todd,

The customer and tech support for customers who have purchased a personal
license is no different from the support provided to other licensed customers.


As for the quality of support, the Software Development Magazine Reader's
Choice award for "Best Technical Support (Small to Medium-Sized Business)"
that we have recently received should be quite a good evidence...

http://www.sdmagazine.com/pressroom/rc2005_winners.html

TP> First of all, I am not whinning or complaing about the cost.
TP>
TP> I just would like to understand why the price is set at $249 for the
TP> personal license.
TP>
TP> I don't have any issues paying for it, I would just like a clear
TP> understanding of what I am getting for $249.
TP>
TP> I know I am purchasing an excellent IDE, but what about customer and
TP> tech support?
TP>
TP> Are these services up to par?
TP>
TP> Purchasing an Java IDE could be seen as somewhat foolish since
TP> Eclipse and Netbeans is free, so I am trying to justify the personal
TP> license cost.

--
Dmitry Jemerov
Software Developer
JetBrains, Inc.
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"


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Dmitry Jemerov: Thank you for the response.

However, I am also looking to see what other "users" have to say as well.

:)

Thanks again,

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To me it is a small price to pay for such a great tool. I spent twice that
on a cutoff saw (DeWalt 708)which I use about 1% of the amount of time I
use IntelliJ. I could have bought something cheaper that would do most of
the cuts my DeWalt does but it's the little extra capacity, ability, and
quality that makes it worth the price. If you are serious about something,
spending money for quality tools is worth the cost.

-Pete

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Pete. "That is the best advice and that pretty much sold me and your right 100%."

I try to force myself to use Netbeans, but it's too buggy and Eclipse is a piece of ]]> that needs to be cut up into little pieces by your DeWalt 708.

IntelliJ is were I am comfortable and productive.

Thanks,

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Please don't bash so much toward Netbeans and Eclipse. You just get what you
pay for.

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In article <dr8l7u$he7$1@is.intellij.net>, Tom <noname@jetbrains.com>
wrote:

Please don't bash so much toward Netbeans and Eclipse. You just get what you
pay for.


I have found both NB and Eclipse to be useful tools. I still buy my
upgrades to IDEA each year, as it is the best of the three, but the
others do have a place.

For example, Subversion support in Eclipse was more mature for quite a
while. They now seem to be on par, but there was a time...

Similarly, NB includes a decent profiler, and integrates well with ant
build scripts, so I can often set up a client for relatively little
money. Consultants who suggest expensive tools their first day on site
often do not get a second day. Consultants who use an efficient tool,
and demonstrate it when asked, on the other hand, get paid well.

Scott

--
Scott Ellsworth
scott@alodar.nospam.com
Java and database consulting for the life sciences

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In article <31024855.1138201431903.JavaMail.itn@is.intellij.net>,
no_mail@jetbrains.com says...

First of all, I am not whinning or complaing about the cost.

I just would like to understand why the price is set at $249 for the personal license.

I don't have any issues paying for it, I would just like a clear understanding of what I am getting for $249.

I know I am purchasing an excellent IDE, but what about customer and tech support?

Are these services up to par?

Purchasing an Java IDE could be seen as somewhat foolish since Eclipse and Netbeans is free, so I am trying to justify the personal license cost.

Thanks,


Well, I think it's worth it. Features like the live templates, file
templates, VCS, refactoring, the list goes on and on. It is an awesome
tool for a mere $250. That's a few trips to a bar.
--
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David H. McCoy


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I actually don't think that $249 is that much money.

I find that it helps me create better code, much more quickly. I've got me two typing fingers flying across the keyboard with little menus popping up, guessing what I want, filling in bits of code (or generating whole files) and then getting the hell out of my way.

Sounds corny, but it really is a pleasurable environment to work in.

I found that other, 'cheaper' IDEs just slowed me down, and time is money. IDEA pays for itself on the first day you use it .. in my less than humble opinion anyway.

Give it a try and remember:

'Ctrl-Space is your friend'

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I think the real question here and one indication of the difference between IDEA and it's free counterparts is pretty clear. The question is, when I buy IDEA will I need to use support? In my experience that answer is no, I have been an IDEA user and a JetBrains customer since IDEA 3 and have only ever used JetBrains support once during that time.

What did I call them about? A licensing issue rather than support for the IDE. I'm please to say I had my first response from them within an hour or so and the issue was resolved before the end of the day.

However the real point here is that with the free IDEs you wish you had support because of the UI problems and various other bugs, with IDEA you rarely need to use it since the IDE is so intuitive and polished - but it's nice to know it's there (and is good) when you do need it.

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In other words... you get what you pay for.

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Dmitry,

I am a personal license owner, and I would like to know how much will I have to pay for an upgrade to Intellij 6.0 ? Do we have also a discount for upgrade like commercial license users ?
I hope not as much as 249 $ :(

Gilles Philippart

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Hello Gilles,

GP> I am a personal license owner, and I would like to know how much
GP> will I have to pay for an upgrade to Intellij 6.0 ? Do we have also
GP> a discount for upgrade like commercial license users ?
GP>
GP> I hope not as much as 249 $ :(

Our sales department should be able to give you the most accurate info on
that. As far as I know, there was a limited-time offer for upgrading your
personal license to 5.0 with a discount, and I expect a similar offer to
be available for 6.0.

--
Dmitry Jemerov
Software Developer
JetBrains, Inc.
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"


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Everyone's comments are very much appreciated.

Bottom line is being productive and continuing to learn, so 'yes' I see the justification in the $249 price tag.

IntelliJ 6, uhhhh... where is that information at?

Thanks,

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Hello Todd,

TP> IntelliJ 6, uhhhh... where is that information at?

http://www.jetbrains.net/confluence/display/IDEADEV/Demetra+Roadmap

--
Dmitry Jemerov
Software Developer
JetBrains, Inc.
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"


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I can confirm there was an offer for the first 30 days after IDEA 5 was released to upgrade an IDEA 4 personal license at a discounted price of $150.

The same was true when I upgraded from v3 to v4 so I would think it is a fair assumption that similar will be true when upgrading from v5 to v6.

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The question isn't whether $249 is too much, the question is whether it's too much for you. You admit that you are more comfortable and productive with it. How much is that worth to you?

As a developer, your IDE is your essentially your home. You spend a great deal of your time there and you should use an IDE that makes that time as pleasant as possible.

An IDE is something I just don't go cheap on. It's home, and I want it to be nice. I use to be pretty cheap on software but I found that I spent a great deal of time frustrated. Now I have an annual budget for software so I can get the stuff I want. I find my job much much more enjoyable that way.

I also bring all my own I/O devices wherever I go. Why? Because I like my stuff. Most companies have crap monitors, keyboards, etc. I spend 8+ hours a day at a computer so I should make it as enjoyable as possible. Spending some money on your chosen profession just seems like a big "duh" to me.

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I agree, like I said I never complained about the price - I just wanted to know exactly what I got for my money.

Thanks,

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I also bring all my own I/O devices wherever I go. Why? Because I like my stuff. Most companies have crap monitors, keyboards, etc. I spend 8 hours a day at a computer so I should make it as enjoyable as possible. Spending some money on your chosen profession just seems like a big "duh" to me.+

And that says it all nicely.

I'll just repeat that when folk aske me why I travel around with my own IDE, my own monitor, my own keyboard and my own chair!

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