Don't like the new scroll bars in 96.552

I think it is ironic that your release notes talk about making the status bar more Mac-style (with the graphic showing the classic blue scroll bars) and then you talk about the new lightweight scrollbars. I see no added value in these new scroll bars and prefer the Mac-style scroll bars.

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Hello Michael,

I think it is ironic that your release notes talk about making the
status bar more Mac-style (with the graphic showing the classic blue
scroll bars) and then you talk about the new lightweight scrollbars. I
see no added value in these new scroll bars and prefer the Mac-style
scroll bars.


The main added value that we see for the new scrollbars is that they allow
us to overlay gutter marks (inspections, TODO, file status etc.) cleanly
on top of the scrollbar. The native scrollbars (either Mac-style or other
operating systems) don't allow to do this cleanly, so we had to have an ugly
grey bar with the markers adjacent to the scrollbar.

--
Dmitry Jemerov
Development Lead
JetBrains, Inc.
http://www.jetbrains.com/
"Develop with Pleasure!"


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By the way iTunes also use its own scrollbars instead of Mac-style blue scroll bars.

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I think showing the overlays introduces more issues than it solves. I now have to think about where to click when scrolling, there is no visual target. At first I thought I could click in the gray bar but that only works until you accidentally click on an inspection and it scrolls you there, not up or down as a scroll bar would. So the scroll bar area doing double duty makes it require thought in deciding where it is ok to click.

The second thing you've lost by doing this is the up arrow / down arrow at the bottom to scroll by increments.

I guess the core of my complaint is I am not sure why you are changing the user experience to save about 20 pixels in the window width.

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But they are still clearly scroll bars. They provide a target to click on, have the up / down arrows in the usual place and don't do double duty as both a scroll bar and trying to show additional information.

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I'd be happy if you just reserved a scroll bar area beside the intentions column. It doesn't have to be like a Mac but it should at least be recognizable and unambiguous as a scroll bar.

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