IDEA 7.0 RC3 isn't actually the best friend of VSS :(

Ouuuuuuuuuuughh.....
IT'S TERRIFIC!
Really can't work!
I'd choose IDEA without VSS support at all instead of this lame stuff

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Hello Mishael,

Ouuuuuuuuuuughh.....
IT'S TERRIFIC!


Note that "terrific" and "terrible" are not the same thing. :)

Really can't work!
I'd choose IDEA without VSS support at all instead of this lame stuff


Any details? Which version did you use previously?

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Dmitry Jemerov
Development Lead
JetBrains, Inc.
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"Develop with Pleasure!"


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Any details?

there are so many details
it'd be better if you try to use IDEA with VSS yourself for about a day
all bugs are random, i can't even reproduce them

1) IDEA thinks that some files are in lower case
myclass.java instead of MyClass.java

2) periodically, even when idea not focused (f.e. i search web in FF), i've got message that sourcesafe ini file is not found

3) i have one file, which i've created in IDEA 7.0
this file is in VSS

now it is black, so it looks like IDEA thinks that it is in VSS
than i edit file and it become brown! so IDEA thinks it isn't in VSS
and in VSS explorer it becomes checkouted
Soursafe menu contains one item: "Add File..."
after add it becomes green - seems ok
but then Chekin comand fails with error: "The item with the name MyClass.java already exists"
when i checkout this file in vss explorer i return to beginning

4) in changelist i see a big list of files "locally Deleted Files"
how to remove this list? all those files are deleted from VSS and from hard disk

Which version did you use previously?

IDEA 6.0.5 works OK

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First issue might well be this one:
http://www.jetbrains.net/jira/browse/IDEA-14434
I suggest that you

  • close Idea

  • backup your project file

  • completely remove this tag from the project file

... ]]>

  • restart and see if it helped


Interestingly newer 7.0 EAP builds were the first build that ever worked
ok (if not perfect) for my VSS installation.
I suggest you calm down a little and if you're interested in getting any bugs
fixed supply a little more info - for example which VERSION of VSS you are
actually using.

The issue with "Locally deleted files" that won't ever get removed sounds
very familiar to me. However I also had that very same problem in 6.0.
The will also go away if you remove the info from your project file (see above).
For me it happened whenever I manually deleted a file from the file system that
was removed in VSS (typical scenario: I tried to build. Build failed with a
compile error. I checked if the file that did not compiled was still in VSS.
Found that it was deleted there. Removed it locally. Idea asked whether to also
delete from VSS (yeah, stupid, I think there's a JIRA for that). I answered "No".
Idea puts the file in "Locally deleted files".

I am more than glad that I stopped working on the project that used VSS.
On subversion now with my current project.

Mishael wrote:
>> Note that "terrific" and "terrible" are not the same thing. :)

sorry, i don't see the difference

>> Any details?

there are so many details
it'd be better if you try to use IDEA with VSS yourself for about a day
all bugs are random, i can't even reproduce them

1) IDEA thinks that some files are in lower case
myclass.java instead of MyClass.java

2) periodically, even when idea not focused (f.e. i search web in FF), i've got message that sourcesafe ini file is not found

3) i have one file, which i've created in IDEA 7.0
this file is in VSS

now it is black, so it looks like IDEA thinks that it is in VSS
than i edit file and it become brown! so IDEA thinks it isn't in VSS
and in VSS explorer it becomes checkouted
Soursafe menu contains one item: "Add File..."
after add it becomes green - seems ok
but then Chekin comand fails with error: "The item with the name MyClass.java already exists"
when i checkout this file in vss explorer i return to beginning

4) in changelist i see a big list of files "locally Deleted Files"
how to remove this list? all those files are deleted from VSS and from hard disk

>> Which version did you use previously?

IDEA 6.0.5 works OK

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+completely remove this tag from the project file
... ]]>+

thanks man
that works!!!

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I use VSS 6.0c (Build 9238)

after all I've decided to create a new project configuration for IDEA 7.0
and now I have new problems:

1) when editing project settings -> web module settings
IDEA checkouts web.xml and struts-config.xml

show difference with last VSS version indicates that there is no difference
but I can't always check if IDEA has modified my files
I wanna sleep in peace, I don't want to look after IDEA

so, please fix this: IDEA shouldn't modify web.xml and struts-config.xml

2) option 'do not show this dialog' doesn't work in dialog "undo checkout":(
it only doesn't work when I use my keymapping "ctrlaltshift+p"
when i use menu comand "Version Control -> Sourcesafe -> undo Check Out" no dialog is shown

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so, please fix this: IDEA shouldn't modify web.xml and
struts-config.xml


+1


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Dear Mishael,

M> 2) option 'do not show this dialog' doesn't work in dialog "undo
M> checkout":(
M> it only doesn't work when I use my keymapping "ctrlaltshift+p"
M> when i use menu comand "Version Control -> Sourcesafe -> undo Check
M> Out" no dialog is shown

Check, whether your "Undo Checkout" options are not set to "Ask":
1. Enable confirmation on "Undo Checkout" in "General Settings" tab for "Version
Control" options;
2. Try to undo checkout, confirmation dialog pops up
3. Most probably you have "Ask" value in the "Replace local copy" option.
Replace it with "Replace" probably :) and check "Do not show this dialog.."
option again.

I changed default value to the "Replace" to eliminate this inconvenience
from the start.

best wishes,
Michael Gerasimov,
Software Developer
JetBrains, Inc


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Dear Mishael,
MG> I changed default value to the "Replace" to eliminate this
MG> inconvenience from the start.

... to appear in 7.01 for well known reasons ...




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