Plugin manager interface

Hm, in the recent build 5661 the dialog is correctly sized, but it seems that you deverted back partly to the old interface (installed and available tabs).

However, the color coded version wasn't bad either, where I could see what has been recently updated. Maybe this is still in there and not visible now, because the status of the plugins has been reinitialized. On the other hand, the code legend is gone, so maybe the feature to indicate recently updated or new stuff is gone?

In the previos version, many plugins where disabled, which I thought is due to not being compatible with 6.0. Now everything is enabled - what does this mean? Are all plugins all of a sudden work with 6.0.

You see, I am confused. Maybe I miss something here.

Kind regards

Thomas Gülden
Munich, Germany

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Hello Thomas,

T> Hm, in the recent build 5661 the dialog is correctly sized, but it
T> seems that you deverted back partly to the old interface (installed
T> and available tabs).
T>
T> However, the color coded version wasn't bad either, where I could see
T> what has been recently updated. Maybe this is still in there and not
T> visible now, because the status of the plugins has been
T> reinitialized. On the other hand, the code legend is gone, so maybe
T> the feature to indicate recently updated or new stuff is gone?
T>
T> In the previos version, many plugins where disabled, which I thought
T> is due to not being compatible with 6.0. Now everything is enabled -
T> what does this mean? Are all plugins all of a sudden work with 6.0.

They were not "disabled". The plugin manager simply marked "potentially obsolete"
all plugins which have not been updated in some time. Plugins not compatible
with the current build of IDEA are not displayed in the plugin manager at
all.

The recently updated plugins are indeed no longer highlighted. You can view
the lists of new and updated plugins on the http://plugins.intellij.net/
Web site.

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Dmitry Jemerov
Software Developer
http://www.jetbrains.com/
"Develop with Pleasure!"


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Hi Dmitry

Oh, I misinterpreted the "disabled" appearence and the term "obsolete". Is there any reason that you dropped the color coding of recently updated plugins? I liked it.

Regards

Thomas

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Hello Thomas,

T> Oh, I misinterpreted the "disabled" appearence and the term
T> "obsolete". Is there any reason that you dropped the color coding of
T> recently updated plugins? I liked it.

As far as I understand, the main reason is to avoid overloading the dialog
- the UI should be clear enough without requiring any legends.

--
Dmitry Jemerov
Software Developer
http://www.jetbrains.com/
"Develop with Pleasure!"


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Hmm, but now I cannot see immediately, which plugins where updated recently.

Regards

Thomas

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Dmitry Jemerov wrote:

The recently updated plugins are indeed no longer highlighted. You can
view the lists of new and updated plugins on the
http://plugins.intellij.net/ Web site.


Does the interface allow to see updated plugins at all? How would I see that
there's a new version for a plugin which I have currently installed?

Sascha

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Hello Sascha,

>> The recently updated plugins are indeed no longer highlighted. You
>> can view the lists of new and updated plugins on the
>> http://plugins.intellij.net/ Web site.
>>
SW> Does the interface allow to see updated plugins at all? How would I
SW> see that there's a new version for a plugin which I have currently
SW> installed?

In this particular case the plugin will be highlighted.

--
Dmitry Jemerov
Software Developer
http://www.jetbrains.com/
"Develop with Pleasure!"


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Dmitry Jemerov wrote:

Hello Sascha,

>>> The recently updated plugins are indeed no longer highlighted. You
>>> can view the lists of new and updated plugins on the
>>> http://plugins.intellij.net/ Web site.
>>>

SW> Does the interface allow to see updated plugins at all? How would I
SW> see that there's a new version for a plugin which I have currently
SW> installed?

In this particular case the plugin will be highlighted.


Is the plugin highlighted in the "Installed" tab, or will it appear in the
"Available" tab in this case? If it's just highlighted in the "Installed" tab, I
cannot compare e.g. the changelogs of the installed vs. the updated version.
(IDEA-6884)

That's why I think that all installed plugins should be shown in the "Available"
tab as well. The distinction (icon and/or background color) would be intuitive
and could be easily explained using a tooltip, so there's no need for some
complicated legend.

Sascha

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  • Installed Tab *

      • I would like the bundled plugins to be separated from teh plugins I installed. I guess since you can uninstall the bundled plugins and then reinstall them, the origin is not immutable, but I would just hardcode the list of bundled plugins and always show them separately.

      • I like how the Firefox Extension dialog puts an "Update Now" button directly next to each plugin which has an update available.

      • Firefox Extension dialog also shows the version, and if there is a new version available they show that in a line below. "A new version x.x.x.x is available."

  • Available Tab *

      • If we are simplifying things, why not just remove the 'Downloads' columns? Most people don't care, and if they do they can find out that information on the plugin website.

Also, by removing that column, the Date column won't be so squished.

  • Overall *

      • Why not show the plugin's icon (the one that is displayed in the settings dialog), if available? I think the http://plugins.intellij.net should be showing the plugin's icon. Otherwise, what's the point of having an icon if they're all the same?

      • The default icon used for plugins is different in IntelliJ and on http://plugins.intellij.ne It would be better if you pick the one you like better and use it in both places. (I prefer the IDEA version although it could be slightly bigger.)

      • The Spotlight Search box doesn't filter the plugins panel. If I wanted to filter the Available plugins by name, that doesn't work.



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Attached snapshot shows what it looks like in Firefox extensions window when a plugin has a new update available.

Items to note:
1. There is a convienent Update Now button next to each out-of-date plugin.
Also, it shows the vesion number of the installed and the newest version
available.

2. Also, if you right click on a plugin, it gives you some options like
Options
Visit Home Page
Uninstall



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Alex> I would like the bundled plugins to be separated from the plugins I
Alex> installed. I guess since you can uninstall the bundled plugins and then
Alex> reinstall them, the origin is not immutable, but I would just hardcode
Alex> the list of bundled plugins and always show them separately.

In build 5692, there are even more bundled plugins. I think all these bundled plugins are a source of confusion. It would be very good if you could hide these.

Could you have a checkbox hide bundled plugins which is checked by default.
If this is checked, then you hide a predefined list of plugins that ship with the product.
This would help clean up this page.



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Just to make things even more complicated, it'd be really nifty to be able
to "disable-without-uninstalling" plugins. A lot of the bundled stuff I
have no use for, and it'd be nice to be able to disable those plugins (if
for no other reason than I'll think idea is running a little faster).

On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 15:40:30 -0400, Alex <no_reply@jetbrains.com> wrote:

Alex> I would like the bundled plugins to be separated from the plugins I
Alex> installed. I guess since you can uninstall the bundled plugins and
then
Alex> reinstall them, the origin is not immutable, but I would just
hardcode
Alex> the list of bundled plugins and always show them separately.

>

In build 5692, there are even more bundled plugins. I think all these
bundled plugins are a source of confusion. It would be very good if
you could hide these.

>

Could you have a checkbox hide bundled plugins which is checked by
default.
If this is checked, then you hide a predefined list of plugins that ship
with the product.
This would help clean up this page.




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At least there should be a visual distinction between bundled and user-installed plugins. Like the welcome screen, where the plugins are split into two distinct groups.

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