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I was going to give them until Tuesday, and then start complaining. That would make three months since the 5.0 release.

--Dave Griffith

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I'd rather complain about not releasing 5.0.2 this week ;)

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It only numbers :)
Under new EAP may be treated features list (not final of course) :)

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Why no one complain about start of new EAP?
(It is so silent here, let's discuss something ;) )

This might have several reasons each affecting some of the users :
- the last EAP promised too much (if anyone remembers how did the road map looked in the
beginning), and made only a part of them.
- there still are some bugs that the users will wait till 5.0.x for them.
- many didn't bought new licenses for V5 because of the above 2 reasons.
- the usability of the last EAP releases was worse than before so many couldn't use
the EAP in production(e.g. like with IDEA 2.5). This was true especially for J2EE development (this
had always at the beginning a big feature list, and always, but always, was let at the end, many
things worked smooth only after x.0.2 or x.0.3, or other were pushed to the "next EAP". After some
such EAPs many users don't "take the pill" anymore :).

- JIRA became a 'black hole' - at least that's the impression of the users, so even less and less
people will contribute with real and useful ideas, or if it happens, they will be lost in the
background noise.

- more and more developers are 'obligated' now in the day work to use Eclipse.
- Eclipse plug-ins, plug-ins, plug-ins (but real and usable plug-ins). I can make a list if you wish
with Eclipse plug-ins I can't live without it, and this is the same to many I spoke with.

- also Netbeans5 looks very promising. Especially the new RCP is extremely easy and productive. Even
if if doesn't have the intelligence of IDEA, to make an application based on Netbeans 5 RCP is now
very fast and it makes no sense now with NB5 to use Intellij for that.
Before, for NB RCP based applications we used IntelliJ to develop them, but with NB5 it's not needed
anymore.

Ahmed.

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- the last EAP promised too much (if anyone remembers
how did the road map looked in the
beginning), and made only a part of them.


Every man can dream, right? I don't think there's anything wrong with aiming high (as long as the feature set isn't marketed that way).

Jetbrains could start with a large wish list, prioritize items, and work on them for a number of iterations, till the release. Some of the features won't make it, but that's OK.

- JIRA became a 'black hole' - at least that's the
impression of the users, so even less and less
people will contribute with real and useful ideas, or
if it happens, they will be lost in the
background noise.


Weird, I don't get that impression. Sure, we had a lot of problems when JetBrains started using JIRA, but I think these problems have been smoothed out by now.

- Eclipse plug-ins, plug-ins, plug-ins (but real and
usable plug-ins). I can make a list if you wish
with Eclipse plug-ins I can't live without it, and
this is the same to many I spoke with.


I could make a list if you wish with IDEA's core features not available in Eclipse I can't live without it, and this is the same to many I spoke with.

Given, there are many outstanding plugins for Eclipse (ah, I have wet dreams about Spindle for IDEA), but so far IDEA's code analysis still outweight them.

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