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Hello Sascha,

>> ==
>>
>> http://www.jetbrains.net/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&p
>> id=10132&fixfor=10471
>>
SW> Cheater! :)

Why "cheater"? That's what I expected to be found. :)

--
Dmitry Jemerov
Software Developer
JetBrains, Inc.
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"


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Eurus - East Wind :)


Dmitry Jemerov (JetBrains)" <yole@jetbrains.com> wrote in message
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So who will be the first to find the codename for the next version?

>

--
Dmitry Jemerov
Software Developer
JetBrains, Inc.
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"

>



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Shouldn't it be "Dmetra" ? ;)

Vnce.


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Dmitry Jemerov (JetBrains) wrote:

Hello Sascha,

>>> ==
>>>
>>> http://www.jetbrains.net/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&p
>>> id=10132&fixfor=10471
>>>

SW> Cheater! :)

Why "cheater"? That's what I expected to be found. :)


I just found the "guess the next EAP name" more challenging and interesting :)

I like the name though... when's the first EAP out? ;)

Sascha

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Are we still sticking to ship names? If not, I'll stand by one of my previous suggestions: Ran or Aegir.

"Ran, a stormy spirit of the sea, reflected the shifting moods of the ocean, sometimes helpful, sometimes harmful. She gathered sailors in her drowning net and dragged them down to the depths of the sea. There, with her husband Aegir, she entertained her victims in her gleaming coral caves, which were lit by the shimmering gold of the sea. Ran loved gold, named the Flame of the Sea, after the fluorescent quality of Nordic waves. Sailor's seeking Ran's favor wisely pocketed some gold for the trip."

Ran's behaviour and qualities are particulary reflected in my day-to-day usage of IDEA -:)

If we're sticking to ship names, all votes go to Marduk.

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Woohoo!! What did I win?? A free EAP license perhaps ;)

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Who cares what the code name is! What's the feature list?

--Dave Griffith

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Dave Griffith wrote on 29/09/05 09:44:

Who cares what the code name is! What's the feature list?


AspectJ!! :)

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Struts and Hibernate support !!!

Dave Griffith wrote on 29/09/05 09:44:

>> Who cares what the code name is What's the feature list?
>>

AspectJ!! :)



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LISP/Scheme support ;)

"Rambabu Talasila" <rambabut@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Struts and Hibernate support !!!

>
>> Dave Griffith wrote on 29/09/05 09:44:
>>
>>> Who cares what the code name is What's the feature list?
>>>
>> AspectJ!! :)
>>
>



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Rambabu Talasila wrote on 29/09/05 09:52:

Struts and Hibernate support !!!


Could we also have a kitchen sink, and minibar?

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Seriously though... how about very few new features with lots of solid improvements
in the area of:

1- Usability
2- Speed
3- UI

R


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Robert Sfeir wrote:

Seriously though... how about very few new features with lots of solid
improvements in the area of:

1- Usability
2- Speed
3- UI


Sounds like a very good idea. For the last several major releases I've
wished for an x.1 release which focuses on polishing and rounding out
the existing features (such as @Nullable and @NotNull which has many
outstanding requests that wouldn't be that difficult to implement),
adding new minor features and fixing bugs. Unfortunately I guess
adding new major features is what sells new copies...

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Hello Jonas,

JK> Robert Sfeir wrote:
JK>
>> Seriously though... how about very few new features with lots of
>> solid improvements in the area of:
>>
>> 1- Usability
>> 2- Speed
>> 3- UI
JK> Sounds like a very good idea. For the last several major releases
JK> I've wished for an x.1 release which focuses on polishing and
JK> rounding out the existing features (such as @Nullable and @NotNull
JK> which has many outstanding requests that wouldn't be that difficult
JK> to implement), adding new minor features and fixing bugs.
JK> Unfortunately I guess adding new major features is what sells new
JK> copies...

Actually from the 5.x, which would normally be the next rev, most folks who
bought 5.0 would not pay for an update, so I think it spells less copies
than what a major release is... but I don't work there, so I don't know

R


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Robert Sfeir wrote:

Seriously though... how about very few new features with lots of solid
improvements in the area of:

1- Usability
2- Speed
3- UI

R


I agree. Also I think the editor and refactorings are due for a lot of work in
improving productivity.

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Seriously though... how about very few new features with lots of solid
improvements in the area of:

1- Usability
2- Speed
3- UI


I've been thinking about this quite a bit recently. I think several months
work in just closing bugs and fixing existing features would go a LONG way
in making IntelliJ an outstanding product. I just hate to see new features
(and thus new bugs) piled on top of code that usually works for the most
part.

Tobin


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KL> I agree. Also I think the editor and refactorings are due for a lot
KL> of work in improving productivity.

Yeah this is what I mean by usability.

R


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Keith Lea wrote:

Also I think the editor and refactorings are due for a lot of work in
improving productivity.


What editor improvements are you thinking of?

Bas

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Bas Leijdekkers wrote:

Keith Lea wrote:

>> Also I think the editor and refactorings are due for a lot of work in
>> improving productivity.


What editor improvements are you thinking of?

Bas


Off the top of my head, improvements are important for
- formatter (so I can trust my enter key, refactorings, and intentions again)
- on-demand import, whose shortcomings irritate me daily
- focus problems (not focus stealing), and delays which prevent me from
working smoothly (sometimes I have to click back into the editor
after invoking an intention, for example)

And some new features which I believe are the logical next step in IDEA's editor,
- an inline rich text editor (for comments and javadoc)
- drag and drop refactoring (to extract variable, method, etc with a
simple ctrlaltdrag or something)
- inline ("live") refactoring (like live-template-style rename)

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Hello Keith,

KL> Bas Leijdekkers wrote:
KL>
>> Keith Lea wrote:
>>
>>> Also I think the editor and refactorings are due for a lot of work
>>> in improving productivity.
>>>
>> What editor improvements are you thinking of?

There was talk at one point, and I'm pretty sure my request is still in Jira,
to have like a thread queue model for different things we do in IDEA. So
say you're updating some code from svn, and you want to at the same time
search for some text, or run and ant task. What I was hoping for is to have
a queue where you can set off all these things and they would be queued up
and taken care of as the IDE is able to get to them. THis way I can search
for some text, then set off a second search for something else, then while
that's going on, do a pull up refactoring.

Also I would love to see the popup statuses for progress meters go away,
put them in a status pane, and allow for multiple progress meters where we
can set off multiple threads at the same time. Those popups are annoying,
and often end up stealing away the focus from being on another app, or even
in idea.

R


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Hello Keith,

KL> Bas Leijdekkers wrote:
KL>
>> Keith Lea wrote:
>>
>>> Also I think the editor and refactorings are due for a lot of work
>>> in improving productivity.
>>>
>> What editor improvements are you thinking of?

Oh yeah and while editing speed has improved, I think more work can be done
especially when it comes to xml, jsp and html type files.

R


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Let us vote this time. Jet brains should conduct the feature survey and take
community feed back like
http://www.myeclipseide.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=NS-Polls&file=index&req=results&pollID=7&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

REXX support :P



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No, please. We've been burned like this before. I hope JetBrains didn't listen that much to it's users. Really, I'm serious. I'm seriously inclined to believe, and deeply hope that JetBrains design and development team is A LOT more qualified to decide how to improve IDEA than us. Sorry, but they're are the geniuses, not you, and certainly not me.

Granted, the knowledge barrier between providers (JetBrains) and receivers (us) in IDEA's case is much lower than the usual. We're quite close, and I'm sure there are some developers among us as good as the JetBrains people, if not better. Those are, however, just a small fraction of IDEA's user base, and JetBrains knows who they are. I'll gladly let JetBrains decide what's best for IDEA. They have the best team working for them, and the best supporters a company could ask for.

... of course, nothing I said above stops me from rambling in these forums. Bring out Demetra's wish list so we can start fighting over features again :)

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A little bird tells me that there will some new advanced refactorings released as a commercial third-party plugin very shortly...

--Dave Griffith

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The secret project! Finally exposed :)
Vince.


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RT> Struts and Hibernate support !!!

Let's not start the add every possible technology thing again. Aren't there
2 plugins already for this stuff? Maybe if they're not adequate a better
request would be to improve the plugin API to allow folks to write better
plugins.

R


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Hello Robert,
Plugins support only basic functionality not advanced. All commerical
IDEs (JDev, Netbeans, Eclipse + myeclipseide ...) support the struts development.

-RT


RT>> Struts and Hibernate support !!!
RT>>

Let's not start the add every possible technology thing again. Aren't
there 2 plugins already for this stuff? Maybe if they're not adequate
a better request would be to improve the plugin API to allow folks to
write better plugins.

R



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