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:D You just discovered The Bile Blog?

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yeah through a friend who knows I love IntelliJ :D


"Robert S. Sfeir" <robert@NOSPAMCodepuccino.dom> wrote in message
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:D You just discovered The Bile Blog?

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Hello Robert,

:D You just discovered The Bile Blog?


BTW, is it not very objective article. Did you know author?


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BTW, is it not very objective article. Did you know
author?


Hani is a regular in these forums. He's been hiding lately, but I'm sure he's lurking in the shadows. About the objectiveness of the article... try to read his blog's archives and maybe you'll get the point :)

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Hello Marcus,

try to read his blog's archives and maybe you'll get the
point :)


I'm already know that is Hani :) Just missed attension :))
So, yes this is realy in his style :)

Thanks!


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Hey! I WAS objective! Just be grateful I didn't discuss performance issues, or how annoying jira is to use, or or or...

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Hi,
We are eagerly waiting for more detailed and concise error problems from
you (here :), like error highlighting with xml schemas or whatever
(except jsp issues we have been already discussed).

Hani Suleiman wrote:

Hey! I WAS objective! Just be grateful I didn't discuss performance issues, or how annoying jira is to use, or or or...


--
Maxim Mossienko
JetBrains, Inc
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"

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I was actually surprused how soft your criticism was :)
That way we'll be soon discouraged to make things better!

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Maxim Shafirov
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"


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I'm getting soft in my old age! What's funny is that I started off not being that angry, but as I remembered all the bugs I'm taking for granted, I got more and more agitated ;)

Still, desperately looking forward to that entry being made 'redundant' and being annoyed at not having enough negative stuff to write about!

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Still, desperately looking forward to that entry
being made 'redundant' and being annoyed at not
having enough negative stuff to write about!


Hani is somewhat right. This EAP is the most painful I've been through. Still, I'm bravely resisting the urge to go back to Pallada so I can find (and report) more bugs.

The present is blight, but I hope there's a shiny future ahead of us :)

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I was discussing this with some people that also use IntelliJ and
participate in the EAP. They agreed that this has been the most buggy EAP so
far. However, I don't compain as I know they moved to a new JDK major
revision and are probably doing some internal refactoring for this. I know a
lot of internal stuff had to be re-written for JSP support which is the
thing I am MOST excited for in this release.

--G

"Marcus Brito" <mbrito@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Still, desperately looking forward to that entry
>> being made 'redundant' and being annoyed at not
>> having enough negative stuff to write about!
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Hani is somewhat right. This EAP is the most painful I've been through.
Still, I'm bravely resisting the urge to go back to Pallada so I can find
(and report) more bugs.

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The present is blight, but I hope there's a shiny future ahead of us :)



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Guys!
IDEA has formatter deep inside of core and rewriting it is not easy task and cannot be painless. But JB decide to do it for support new Languages API and formatting in more file types. Do you suggest use 2 formatters to make EAP more stable? It's bad idea I think, cause in this case everyone would disable it :) So wait a little and all be ok!

Thanks

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Guys!
IDEA has formatter deep inside of core and rewriting
it is not easy task and cannot be painless.


We know, and thaht's the "brighter future" part of my first post is all about. I'm not exactly complaining about the current state of EAP, just noticing that those who survive this cycle will be true heroes.

Don't worry. I'm wounded, battle scarred, and my sword is dulling, but there are still a good fight ahead, I'm not giving up :)

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Yup, I agree. I totally recognize the awesome stuff they are doing so I
completely understand the instability and I think it was the right choice.
;) Go JB :)

--Grant

"Marcus Brito" <mbrito@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Guys!
>> IDEA has formatter deep inside of core and rewriting
>> it is not easy task and cannot be painless.
>

We know, and thaht's the "brighter future" part of my first post is all
about. I'm not exactly complaining about the current state of EAP, just
noticing that those who survive this cycle will be true heroes.

>

Don't worry. I'm wounded, battle scarred, and my sword is dulling, but
there are still a good fight ahead, I'm not giving up :)



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Praising them does not make the next build come sooner. Instead a party
in St. Peterburg will delete it further. ;)

Tom

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Praising them does not make the next build come
sooner. Instead a party
in St. Peterburg will delete it further. ;)


Sigh...
At work, waiting for the next EAP build.
At home, waiting for the next WoW content patch.

That's too much waiting for a man to handle. I should have picked a game that doesn't make me wait for the next version as anxiously as I wait for the EAP builds.

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OMG!

WOW! I have a 60 rogue and 42 druid on Lightbringer. Are they releasing
battle grounds today? :) :) At work, I live in IntelliJ, and home I live in
WOW :)

I'm up for an EAP party! Who is bringing the vodka?



"Marcus Brito" <mbrito@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Praising them does not make the next build come
>> sooner. Instead a party
>> in St. Peterburg will delete it further. ;)
>

Sigh...
At work, waiting for the next EAP build.
At home, waiting for the next WoW content patch.

>

That's too much waiting for a man to handle. I should have picked a game
that doesn't make me wait for the next version as anxiously as I wait for
the EAP builds.



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I can bring donuts as long as someone brings a build :)

Vince.


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in St. Peterburg will delete it further. ;)


Should read "delay".

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WOW! I have a 60 rogue and 42 druid on Lightbringer.
Are they releasing
battle grounds today? :) :) At work, I live in
IntelliJ, and home I live in
WOW :)


60 Priest in Argent Dawn :) And yeah, agains all odds, Blizzard released the 1.5 patch today (damn, I want to go home). Now only if JetBrains could do the same...

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Marcus Brito <mbrito@gmail.com> wrote:

Hani is a regular in these forums. He's been hiding lately, but I'm sure
he's lurking in the shadows. About the objectiveness of the article...
try to read his blog's archives and maybe you'll get the point :)


He sure does have a point. You have to use some extensive exaggeration
filtering, though. Speed for example has been a concern for quite some
time now. Exceptions are part of the admission price for EAP.

Best,

Dirk Dittert

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