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My guess is once OS/X Tiger is out, with 1.5, we might see IDEA shipping
with a 1.5 runtime. Heres hoping...

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Just wondering, is there an ETA from Apple on that? I don't know much
about the Apple world.

Thanks,

Vince.


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It's supposed to be later this month (April)

Just wondering, is there an ETA from Apple on that? I don't know much
about the Apple world.

Thanks,

Vince.




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29th April 2005.

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29th April 2005.



No Java 1.5 in the box, I'm afraid.
See:
http://developer.apple.com/java/faq/#anchor2

Alain

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No Java 1.5 in the box, I'm afraid.
See:
http://developer.apple.com/java/faq/#anchor2


Maybe they didn't update the Java FAQ for Tiger? IIRC, 1.5 was scheduled to be released with Tiger, and the FAQ entry you just linked just says that 1.5 won't be available for previous (<= 10.3) releases.

Not that I care about Mac release schedules. I wish I did, really.

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In article <d3h62p$sui$1@is.intellij.net>,
Alain Ravet <alain.ravet@biz.tiscali.be> wrote:

29th April 2005.


No Java 1.5 in the box, I'm afraid.
See:
http://developer.apple.com/java/faq/#anchor2

Alain


Try again. I'm using it right now. It will be there with Tiger when
you get the CD.

R

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In article <d3h62p$sui$1@is.intellij.net>,
Alain Ravet <alain.ravet@biz.tiscali.be> wrote:

29th April 2005.


No Java 1.5 in the box, I'm afraid.
See:
http://developer.apple.com/java/faq/#anchor2

Alain


Oh yeah and the link above is incredibly outdated, they were up to DP7
in the last Tiger build.

R

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I think you misread that page. It says there is Java 5.0 for Tiger, but not
for earlier OSX releases.

>> 29th April 2005.
>>

No Java 1.5 in the box, I'm afraid.
See:
http://developer.apple.com/java/faq/#anchor2
Alain




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Keith

I think you misread that page. It says there is Java 5.0 for Tiger,
but not for earlier OSX releases.




How do you understand :
"Developer Preview 5 of J2SE 5.0 Release 1 is now available at the
ADC Download Site.
The preview requires Mac OS X v10.4 Tiger Build 8A393"



The way I read it, if you want to use J2SE 5.0 on MacOS X
- it's still beta (preview)
- it works only on Tiger
AND
- you need to download it => it's not in the box.

Alain

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Robert

Oh yeah and the link above is incredibly outdated, they were up to DP7
in the last Tiger build.

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No mention of java in this up-to-date list of 200+ new features:
http://www.apple.com/macosx/newfeatures/newfeatures.html

, and here:
http://www.apple.com/macosx/developertools/
, they say
"Built in to Mac OS X Tiger is the latest, certified release of the
Java 2 Platform."

Is Apple's Java 5.0 certified, or is it still the preview?


Alain

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In article <d3hebp$ib3$2@is.intellij.net>,
Alain Ravet <alain.ravet@biz.tiscali.be> wrote:

Robert

Oh yeah and the link above is incredibly outdated, they were up to DP7
in the last Tiger build.

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No mention of java in this up-to-date list of 200+ new features:
http://www.apple.com/macosx/newfeatures/newfeatures.html



So what? Look at past announcements of Panther, they never did there
either. They're not there to advertise Java, rather their OS.

Is Apple's Java 5.0 certified, or is it still the preview?


It's JDK 1.5.0_02


Alain

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In article <d3hdmi$ib3$1@is.intellij.net>,
Alain Ravet <alain.ravet@biz.tiscali.be> wrote:

Keith

I think you misread that page. It says there is Java 5.0 for Tiger,
but not for earlier OSX releases.



How do you understand :
"Developer Preview 5 of J2SE 5.0 Release 1 is now available at the
ADC Download Site.
The preview requires Mac OS X v10.4 Tiger Build 8A393"



The way I read it, if you want to use J2SE 5.0 on MacOS X
- it's still beta (preview)


Because Tiger was not released. 393 is 2 months old.

- it works only on Tiger


Yes and?

AND
- you need to download it => it's not in the box.


Wrong because you also need to download Tiger and it's referring to a
PREVIEW of Tiger and the Information on that page is also VERY VERY old.
You needed to download it because during development the JDK was handled
by a different team of engineers, hence it's not part of the package
that installed Tiger, and it ran at its own pace.


Alain

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Perhaps someone from JetBrain's IntelliJ team would mind shedding some
light on their plans regarding J2SE5?

10x

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Arik,

I'm sure, they will give it a try when Mac OS X 10.4 (Tiger) is released. If
IDEA runs stable enough on 1.5 with all platform, I bet, they will let it
run on 1.5.

Tom

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Tom

> I'm sure, they will give it a try when Mac OS X 10.4 (Tiger) is
released.

I'm afraid it's not that simple: Apple Java 1.5 works only on Tiger
=> JetBrains would have to ship and maintain 2 versions: one for Tiger,
and one for Panther.

Alain

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Exactly.
Thus it seems Irida will be shipped with 1.4 runtime.

Poll for MacOS X users: Do you plan to upgrade to Tiger when it comes out?
If yes, how long you expect it to take?

-


Maxim Shafirov
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"

Tom

>> I'm sure, they will give it a try when Mac OS X 10.4 (Tiger) is
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released.

I'm afraid it's not that simple: Apple Java 1.5 works only on Tiger
=> JetBrains would have to ship and maintain 2 versions: one for
Tiger,
and one for Panther.
Alain



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Maxim Shafirov (JetBrains) wrote:

Poll for MacOS X users:
Q1/ Do you plan to upgrade to Tiger when it comes out?
Q2/ If yes, how long you expect it to take?

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>> Q1/ Do you plan to upgrade to Tiger when it comes out?
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Yes.


>> Q2/ If yes, how long you expect it to take?
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delay: I'll probably wait a week or 2, and check the apple.java-dev list
to see if there is any problem.


Alain

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In article <d3l1cd$jh6$1@is.intellij.net>,
"Thomas Singer (MoTJ)" <I@HateSpam.de> wrote:

Arik,

I'm sure, they will give it a try when Mac OS X 10.4 (Tiger) is released. If
IDEA runs stable enough on 1.5 with all platform, I bet, they will let it
run on 1.5.


Runs fine for me on OSX with JDK 5.0

R

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In article <c8a8a1bf865a8c70f0506c3ccb1@news.jetbrains.com>,
Maxim Shafirov (JetBrains) <max@jetbrains.com> wrote:

Exactly.
Thus it seems Irida will be shipped with 1.4 runtime.

Poll for MacOS X users: Do you plan to upgrade to Tiger when it comes out?


Yes (and imho anyone who doesn't is simply crazy... tiger's 1.4 and 1.5
JDK speeds are incredibly improved by as much as 1200x speed increase...
Ask Maxim he's seen it)

If yes, how long you expect it to take?


Already ordered

R

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In article <d3lbr2$u1o$1@is.intellij.net>,
Alain Ravet <alain.ravet@biz.tiscali.be> wrote:

Maxim Shafirov (JetBrains) wrote:

Poll for MacOS X users:
Q1/ Do you plan to upgrade to Tiger when it comes out?


Yes

Q2/ If yes, how long you expect it to take?


Done, ordered

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Poll for MacOS X users: Do you plan to upgrade to Tiger when it comes out?

If yes, how long you expect it to take?

My copy is already pre-ordered, but I'll probably a couple days before installing
it just to make sure there aren't any big issues.

Tobin


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I've already been running tiger for the last month or so on both my laptop and desktop, so count me in as a definite upgrader on April 29th

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In article <robert-4C1029.09122414042005@mail.intellij.net>,
"Robert S. Sfeir" <robert@codepuccinoNOSPAM.com> wrote:

In article <d3lbr2$u1o$1@is.intellij.net>,
Alain Ravet <alain.ravet@biz.tiscali.be> wrote:

Maxim Shafirov (JetBrains) wrote:

Poll for MacOS X users:
Q1/ Do you plan to upgrade to Tiger when it comes out?


Yes

Q2/ If yes, how long you expect it to take?


Done, ordered


I asked here at the office, of the 6 minimal idea licenses we have, all
of which are on OS X, we're all going to Tiger as well as soon as NIH
gets it, which is usually when it's released.

R

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Q1) Yes, probably that day or the first weekend thereafter depending on what I am doing.

Q2) A few hours including rebuilding binary packages and getting oracle installed.

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I'll be getting a copy the day it comes out. I've been running the developer builds on my PB and it's certainly faster than Panther and has gotten really nice in the last two builds.

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Not straight away - but then I'm not currently using Idea on OS X
because the performance was so horrible when I tried it (iMac G5 20"
512Mb) and because it's my home machine.

R

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Too bad, I can't wait to be able to write plugins in 'real' 1.5 (i.e.
not retroweaved or anything).

btw, our product was shipping with 1.4.2_06 and we were seeing
random 'JVM vanishes' problems -- all gone with 1.4.2_08.

Vince.


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In article <c8a8a1bf865a8c70f0506c3ccb1@news.jetbrains.com>,
Maxim Shafirov (JetBrains) <max@jetbrains.com> wrote:

Exactly.
Thus it seems Irida will be shipped with 1.4 runtime.

Poll for MacOS X users: Do you plan to upgrade to Tiger when it comes out?
If yes, how long you expect it to take?


Upgraded a few months ago. (Had a 1.5-only project, as well as some
Tiger-targetted projects, so I lived with exciting beta software for a
while.)

My Mac-using clients will be upgrading within a few weeks of it shipping.

Scott

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