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Hello Mark,

MD> Pssssst - new newsgroup :)

Hmm... how it work? Very nice indeed! :)

Thanks!
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Alexey Efimov, Java Developer
Tops BI
http://www.topsbi.ru


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Hmmm. I can't connect to it through Thunderbird.

Norris Shelton
Sun Certified Java Programmer




Mark Derricutt wrote:

>Pssssst - new newsgroup :)

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No problem with Thunderbird here. You might want to try to click on the
"refresh" button.

Bas

Norris Shelton wrote:

Hmmm. I can't connect to it through Thunderbird.

Norris Shelton
Sun Certified Java Programmer




Mark Derricutt wrote:

>>Pssssst - new newsgroup :)
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Hmm. Still no changes. It says it can't connect to
jetbrains.intellij.jira.idea.

Norris Shelton
Sun Certified Java Programmer




Bas Leijdekkers wrote:

No problem with Thunderbird here. You might want to try to click on
the "refresh" button.

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Bas

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Norris Shelton wrote:

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>> Hmmm. I can't connect to it through Thunderbird.
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>> Norris Shelton
>> Sun Certified Java Programmer
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>> Mark Derricutt wrote:
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>>> Pssssst - new newsgroup :)
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In article <423073AD.9060204@yahoo.com>,
Norris Shelton <i.hate.spam@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hmm. Still no changes. It says it can't connect to
jetbrains.intellij.jira.idea.


Working just fine for me.

R

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jetbrains.intellij.jira.idea is the name of the newsgroup, not the news server...

Hmm. Still no changes. It says it can't connect to
jetbrains.intellij.jira.idea.

Norris Shelton
Sun Certified Java Programmer
Bas Leijdekkers wrote:

>> No problem with Thunderbird here. You might want to try to click on
>> the "refresh" button.
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>> Bas
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>> Norris Shelton wrote:
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>>> Hmmm. I can't connect to it through Thunderbird.
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>>> Norris Shelton
>>> Sun Certified Java Programmer
>>> Mark Derricutt wrote:
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>>>> Pssssst - new newsgroup :)
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On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 11:19:57 -0500, Norris Shelton wrote:

Hmm. Still no changes. It says it can't connect to
jetbrains.intellij.jira.idea.


Can't connect? Thats not a server.... just a newsgroup

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On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 11:32:18 +0000, Alexey Efimov wrote:

Hmm... how it work? Very nice indeed! :)


It's a combination service/listenter addin for JIRA. Code for the plugin
is under Apache 2.0 licensing, I'll be adding some info on it to
Atlassian's wiki sometime with links to the code etc. etc.


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In article <pan.2005.03.10.19.02.48.966527@gmail.com>,
Mark Derricutt <talios@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 11:19:57 -0500, Norris Shelton wrote:

Hmm. Still no changes. It says it can't connect to
jetbrains.intellij.jira.idea.


Can't connect? Thats not a server.... just a newsgroup


I didn't know .idea was not a domain name qualifier... dang jetbrains is
getting important in the domain name world! Can I have the sfeir.idea
domain? :)

R

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I don't know if this is related, but every 2 minutes, someone called test@intellij.net is posting the same comment over and over to http://www.jetbrains.net/jira/browse/IDEA-836

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Ouch!

Funnily, the comment itself was initially posted by Mark Derricutt :)

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Maxim Shafirov
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"

I don't know if this is related, but every 2 minutes, someone called
test@intellij.net is posting the same comment over and over to
http://www.jetbrains.net/jira/browse/IDEA-836




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It took me a while to delete them all (except one original) manually.
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Maxim Shafirov
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"



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No way, they're still coming. :(

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Maxim Shafirov
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"



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Maxim Shafirov wrote:

No way, they're still coming. :(


shit :(

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Keith Lea wrote:

I don't know if this is related, but every 2 minutes, someone called
test@intellij.net is posting the same comment over and over to
http://www.jetbrains.net/jira/browse/IDEA-836


This comment was a followup from usenet. My guess is that theres a
permissions problem on the server at JB's end thats not letting the
service update its last-read count ( and unfortunately, JIRA doesn't
track that the Message-ID has already been handled ).

Must enter a JIRA bug for that.

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Mark Derricutt wrote:

Must enter a JIRA bug for that.


http://jira.atlassian.com/browse/JRA-6173

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OK, I got it. I looked for a subscribe first, but nothing showed. I
had to hit refresh a few times before I decided to check.

Thx.

Norris Shelton
Sun Certified Java Programmer




Mark Derricutt wrote:

>On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 11:19:57 -0500, Norris Shelton wrote:
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>>Hmm. Still no changes. It says it can't connect to
>>jetbrains.intellij.jira.idea.
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>Can't connect? Thats not a server.... just a newsgroup

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Norris Shelton wrote:

OK, I got it. I looked for a subscribe first, but nothing showed. I
had to hit refresh a few times before I decided to check.


Cool, it's looking good so far, apart from an issue (which I believe is
permissions on JBs servers ) causing endless dupe messages from
newsgroup followups - eep.

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Original issue deleted. Recreated as http://www.jetbrains.net/jira/browse/IDEA-852

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Maxim Shafirov
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"

I don't know if this is related, but every 2 minutes, someone called
test@intellij.net is posting the same comment over and over to
http://www.jetbrains.net/jira/browse/IDEA-836




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At least some replies from newsgroups are identifying the user as NNTP_USER.

See for example this message from Maxim Shafirov: http://www.jetbrains.net/jira/browse/IDEA-1013?page=comments#action_25630

Is it possible to correct this?



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On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:21:52 +0000, Carlos Costa e Silva wrote:

At least some replies from newsgroups are identifying the user as
NNTP_USER.


mmmm, that should only occur if the posting address wasn't that of a user
in JIRA. Strange.

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Hello Mark,

MD> mmmm, that should only occur if the posting address wasn't that of a
MD> user in JIRA. Strange.

Should have done this earlier: in jira, Maxim is max@intellij.com, the post
was done by max@jetbrains.com.

Maxim, you naugthy boy, stop using multiple mail addresses :)



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Mark Derricutt wrote:

mmmm, that should only occur if the posting address wasn't that of a user
in JIRA. Strange.


Not sure if this will work at all because many people don't use their real
email when posting to NNTP to avoid spam. Since this doesn't provide any
security anyway, why not also look for identical names (both real name and
login name) in the "From" header?

I guess this has a much better chance to find he corresponding JIRA user.

Sascha

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Thanks, Jira profile corrected to max@jetbrains.com

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Maxim Shafirov
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"

Hello Mark,

MD>> mmmm, that should only occur if the posting address wasn't that of
MD>> a user in JIRA. Strange.
MD>>

Should have done this earlier: in jira, Maxim is max@intellij.com, the
post was done by max@jetbrains.com.

Maxim, you naugthy boy, stop using multiple mail addresses :)




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Mark Derricutt wrote:

>> mmmm, that should only occur if the posting address wasn't that of a
>> user in JIRA. Strange.
>>

Not sure if this will work at all because many people don't use their
real email when posting to NNTP to avoid spam. Since this doesn't
provide any security anyway, why not also look for identical names
(both real name and login name) in the "From" header?

I guess this has a much better chance to find he corresponding JIRA
user.


Maybe I misunderstand something, I don't know much about the JIRA NNTP bridge,
but doesn't this seem like a huge security hole? Anyone can post using any
name or email address, can't they?


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Sascha Weinreuter wrote:

Not sure if this will work at all because many people don't use their real
email when posting to NNTP to avoid spam. Since this doesn't provide any
security anyway, why not also look for identical names (both real name and


That bit of processing is actually handled by Atlassians code, I simply
pass the message off to the appropriate handler. It matches the email
address with a user, otherwise uses the default user specified in the
configuration.

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Keith Lea wrote:

Maybe I misunderstand something, I don't know much about the JIRA NNTP
bridge, but doesn't this seem like a huge security hole? Anyone can post
using any name or email address, can't they?


Yep - awhile ago JetBrains enabled security on their NNTP server to
allow posting ONLY if you authenticated with the server using your
username/password, unfortunatley it seems this has been relaxed to allow
anonymous posting ( which in turn, coincided nicely with the influx of
posting spam we started getting again a few months back ).

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That bit of processing is actually handled by Atlassians code, I simply
pass the message off to the appropriate handler. It matches the email
address with a user, otherwise uses the default user specified in the
configuration.


Is there a reason that whenever something seems to be moved or resolved
that it says the user that did it is Jira? Can you not process those to
see who performed the moved or closed?

R

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Robert S. Sfeir wrote:

Is there a reason that whenever something seems to be moved or resolved
that it says the user that did it is Jira? Can you not process those to
see who performed the moved or closed?


I left an email with Sergey last week about a newer build that picks up
the names instead of using Jira ( the original 'cause' of this was that
I was looking at the comment author to see whose name to use, on alot of
these operations theres no comment, thus no author. The newer build
just uses the remoteUser's usename in the instance where theres no comment.

However, I've not heard a peep out of Sergey for a week now, I'll
forward that message to Maxim...

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I'm sorry, Mark.
I've got your message, I plan to test and update it on our production Jira,
but I didn't have a time for that on last week.
It's not so simple to install/update plugin into Jira which using in
production. I need to repack new Jira, stop app server, delete ald Jira and
start app server again. And if something goes wrong I should revert all of
this back.

In the any case new version of Jira (3.1.1) issued some time ago, so I plan
to update Jira and update your plugin simultaneously.
I'm sorry for delay once more, but I thought it's not so critical update.

--
Sergey Zhukov
System Administrator
JetBrains, Inc
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"

"Mark Derricutt" <mark@talios.com> wrote in message
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Robert S. Sfeir wrote:

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>> Is there a reason that whenever something seems to be moved or resolved
>> that it says the user that did it is Jira? Can you not process those to
>> see who performed the moved or closed?
>

I left an email with Sergey last week about a newer build that picks up
the names instead of using Jira ( the original 'cause' of this was that I
was looking at the comment author to see whose name to use, on alot of
these operations theres no comment, thus no author. The newer build just
uses the remoteUser's usename in the instance where theres no comment.

>

However, I've not heard a peep out of Sergey for a week now, I'll forward
that message to Maxim...



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