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I wonder what IBM think about this since BEA are arguably their biggest rival in J2EE.

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Here are the words of Bjorn Freeman-Benson (WTP former leader) in an announcement to eclipse.webtools newsgroup (yeah, I haven to subscribe to this):

The PMC invited Tim Wagner of BEA to replace Bjorn Freeman-Benson as PMC co-lead. Tim explained "As part of the Eclipse community's acceptance of BEA's request to join as a strategic developer, we would like to formally request a leadership role in the Web Tools Project.

So, the Eclipse PMC (and IBM is part of that) actually invited BEA to take leadership of the WTP project. Makes you think about it, but it's definitely not a surprise for IBM.

+The PMC is pleased to have some of Tim's caliber on board, and we're pleased that BEA is going to help bring the WTP R1.0 release together - there's still a lot of work to do in defining the APIs, ensuring the quality, and making sure the framework and exemplary tools are "Eclipse quality" code.

Welcome to BEA.+

Gotta love the "Welcome to BEA" at the end.

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You will be assimilated. We are BEA of Borg.

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In article <25118094.1109233563924.JavaMail.itn@is.intellij.net>,
Colin Fleming <no_mail@jetbrains.com> wrote:

Ouch.

http://www.bea.com/framework.jsp?CNT=pr01421.htm&FP=/content/news_events/press
_releases/2005&ref=PR1


Cool I've seen what they did to the Symantec tools they bought, and then
what happened to them when they tried to make it this huge heavy slushy
suite. here's hoping they'll do the same to eclipse. :)

R

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Cool I've seen what they did to the Symantec tools they bought, and
then what happened to them when they tried to make it this huge heavy
slushy suite. here's hoping they'll do the same to eclipse. :)

I don't think that IBM nees BEA to make Eclipse slow. They can do it themselfs
very good :). Just take a look at WSAD (Eclipse with IBM's commercial plug-ins)
-very cool plug-ins but it's very very slow - despite of their SWT :).
IMHO the speed should be again one of the main arguments of IDEA. Back to
JBuilder 3.5 and 4.0 when a lot of people switched to IDEA, the speed of
was the main reason (for managers :) - who decied) to switch.

I just hope that the new Fabrique plug-in won't make IDEA dead slow (cause
it was dead slow even without IDEA :) ).

Ahmed.


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