Someone asked me if IDEA stood for an acronym... did not see anything on the site, I was wondering if it stood for maybe IntelliJ Integrated Development Environment Application?
I have always thought that it's a play on words that (1) it's an IDE, and (2) "idea" is a nice sounding word which contains "IDE".
-Keith
Someone asked me if IDEA stood for an acronym... did not see anything on the site, I was wondering if it stood for maybe IntelliJ Integrated Development Environment Application?
It's a prophetic naming about the future of development
tools - what
Eugene never told anyone - IntelliJ really is the first
eclipse ;p
You can pull your tongue out of your cheek, because it is not funny anymore. Eclipse got mature, better, and it is free. Eclipse model is "get workbench, buy tools". A bunch of plugins which are sold for Eclipse, it is the marketplace. All because of the idea (pun intended) of plugin-based IDE. We can see how it works. IDEA has plugin API too, but it seems as more of a bolt-on solution. It was not a strategy. Again, why would I buy IDEA 4.x, if I already have another GUI tool? I am happy with mine 3.0.5. Make GUI designer a plugin and sell it separately, and lower the price of the base product. Tomcat integration? A plugin. Weblogic integration? A plugin. Starteam integration? A plugin. And each should be priced separately. By the way, is ex-Fabrique going to become an IDEA plugin, or an irrevocable part?
If IntelliJ do not change their pricing policy and do not provide total modularization, IDEA will extinct. Now you can call this FUD.
P.S. Who am I, I do not have my own software company yet. But I will hate to see IntelliJ demise.
I agree that IntelliJ has less of the clear edge it had a year ago. Eclipse is learning fast and in a recent "getting updated" trial I did with it I was impressed by some of the new stuff and the progress rate (and in several occasions feature copy) that they have done.
I didn't take it eventually, but unlike 2.5 years ago, when I chose a Java IDE for the company I worked for, now my choice to stay with IntelliJ is at least in part due to my familiarity with IntelliJ. There are other factors, but a year ago and definitely 2.5 years ago in my opinion, for our specific needs at my workplace, there was no comparison between anything an IntelliJ and now there is, at least in the feature by feature comparison (which I think is misleading, but people like to do it).
Disclaimer: I am not affiliated with any IDE or company. I love IntelliJ and I too hate to see some of its coming of age illnesses hinder its bright future.
You can pull your tongue out of your cheek, because it is not funny anymore. Eclipse got mature, better, and it is free. Eclipse model is "get workbench, buy tools". A bunch of plugins which are sold for Eclipse, it is the marketplace. All because of the idea (pun intended) of plugin-based IDE. We can see how it works. IDEA has plugin API too, but it seems as more of a bolt-on solution. It was not a strategy. Again, why would I buy IDEA 4.x, if I already have another GUI tool? I am happy with mine 3.0.5. Make GUI designer a plugin and sell it separately, and lower the price of the base product. Tomcat integration? A plugin. Weblogic integration? A plugin. Starteam integration? A plugin. And each should be priced separately. By the way, is ex-Fabrique going to become an IDEA plugin, or an irrevocable part?
A great model indeed Michael. Give me an editor for free, let me add what I want, the more I need the more I'd better afford. I'd buy that (pun intended)
R
P.S. Indeed Eclipse is not funny anymore, 3.1 M4 is scary clean.
All of my hope is on kick-ass JSP, .js and CSS support.
Add drag-n-drop JSF and even better EJB support and I will think I won the lottery. :)
Norris Shelton Sun Certified Java Programmer
Robert S. Sfeir wrote:
>>You can pull your tongue out of your cheek, because it is >>not funny anymore. Eclipse got mature, better, and it is >>free. Eclipse model is "get workbench, buy tools". A bunch >>of plugins which are sold for Eclipse, it is the >>marketplace. All because of the idea (pun intended) of >>plugin-based IDE. We can see how it works. IDEA has plugin >>API too, but it seems as more of a bolt-on solution. It was >>not a strategy. Again, why would I buy IDEA 4.x, if I >>already have another GUI tool? I am happy with mine 3.0.5. >>Make GUI designer a plugin and sell it separately, and lower >>the price of the base product. Tomcat integration? A plugin. >>Weblogic integration? A plugin. Starteam integration? A >>plugin. And each should be priced separately. By the way, is >>ex-Fabrique going to become an IDEA plugin, or an >>irrevocable part? >> >> > >A great model indeed Michael. Give me an editor for free, let me add >what I want, the more I need the more I'd better afford. I'd buy that >(pun intended) > >R > >P.S. Indeed Eclipse is not funny anymore, 3.1 M4 is scary clean.
P.S. Indeed Eclipse is not funny anymore, 3.1 M4 is scary clean.
And did you ever try using Eclipse (3.0 stable) together with MyEclipse? It's a remarkably low cost solution (MyEclipse costs $31.75 for one year) for great functionality.
My only peeve with Eclipse right now is real state use and interface usability in general. If the eclipse guys learn something about keyborad shortcuts and individually retractable views, well... It's sad to think what could happen.
Dark corner happy place dark corner happy place happy place happy place...
I have always thought that it's a play on words that (1) it's an IDE, and
(2) "idea" is a nice sounding word which contains "IDE".
-Keith
True. At least I always thought the same.
In article <13041632419083554296087@news.jetbrains.com>,
Maxim Shafirov <max@jetbrains.com> wrote:
haha, and if jetbrains is not sure either, that's kind of cool :)
Hello Robert,
Incredible Development Enlightenment Artifact
:) i hope
Thanks!
--
Alexey Efimov, Java Developer
Tops BI
http://www.topsbi.ru
Alexey Efimov wrote:
>
I Don't Envisage Another (Tool)
Alain
Alain Ravet wrote:
IBM Developed Eclipse Again.
It's a prophetic naming about the future of development tools - what
Eugene never told anyone - IntelliJ really is the first eclipse ;p
"Mark Derricutt" <mark@talios.com> wrote in message
news:csria8$42n$1@is.intellij.net...
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tools - what
eclipse ;p
You can pull your tongue out of your cheek, because it is
not funny anymore. Eclipse got mature, better, and it is
free. Eclipse model is "get workbench, buy tools". A bunch
of plugins which are sold for Eclipse, it is the
marketplace. All because of the idea (pun intended) of
plugin-based IDE. We can see how it works. IDEA has plugin
API too, but it seems as more of a bolt-on solution. It was
not a strategy. Again, why would I buy IDEA 4.x, if I
already have another GUI tool? I am happy with mine 3.0.5.
Make GUI designer a plugin and sell it separately, and lower
the price of the base product. Tomcat integration? A plugin.
Weblogic integration? A plugin. Starteam integration? A
plugin. And each should be priced separately. By the way, is
ex-Fabrique going to become an IDEA plugin, or an
irrevocable part?
If IntelliJ do not change their pricing policy and do not
provide total modularization, IDEA will extinct. Now you can
call this FUD.
P.S. Who am I, I do not have my own software company yet.
But I will hate to see IntelliJ demise.
I agree that IntelliJ has less of the clear edge it had a year ago.
Eclipse is learning fast and in a recent "getting updated" trial I did
with it I was impressed by some of the new stuff and the progress rate
(and in several occasions feature copy) that they have done.
I didn't take it eventually, but unlike 2.5 years ago, when I chose a
Java IDE for the company I worked for, now my choice to stay with
IntelliJ is at least in part due to my familiarity with IntelliJ. There
are other factors, but a year ago and definitely 2.5 years ago in my
opinion, for our specific needs at my workplace, there was no comparison
between anything an IntelliJ and now there is, at least in the feature
by feature comparison (which I think is misleading, but people like to
do it).
Disclaimer: I am not affiliated with any IDE or company. I love IntelliJ
and I too hate to see some of its coming of age illnesses hinder its
bright future.
Amnon
A great model indeed Michael. Give me an editor for free, let me add
what I want, the more I need the more I'd better afford. I'd buy that
(pun intended)
R
P.S. Indeed Eclipse is not funny anymore, 3.1 M4 is scary clean.
All of my hope is on kick-ass JSP, .js and CSS support.
Add drag-n-drop JSF and even better EJB support and I will think I won
the lottery. :)
Norris Shelton
Sun Certified Java Programmer
Robert S. Sfeir wrote:
>>You can pull your tongue out of your cheek, because it is
>>not funny anymore. Eclipse got mature, better, and it is
>>free. Eclipse model is "get workbench, buy tools". A bunch
>>of plugins which are sold for Eclipse, it is the
>>marketplace. All because of the idea (pun intended) of
>>plugin-based IDE. We can see how it works. IDEA has plugin
>>API too, but it seems as more of a bolt-on solution. It was
>>not a strategy. Again, why would I buy IDEA 4.x, if I
>>already have another GUI tool? I am happy with mine 3.0.5.
>>Make GUI designer a plugin and sell it separately, and lower
>>the price of the base product. Tomcat integration? A plugin.
>>Weblogic integration? A plugin. Starteam integration? A
>>plugin. And each should be priced separately. By the way, is
>>ex-Fabrique going to become an IDEA plugin, or an
>>irrevocable part?
>>
>>
>
>A great model indeed Michael. Give me an editor for free, let me add
>what I want, the more I need the more I'd better afford. I'd buy that
>(pun intended)
>
>R
>
>P.S. Indeed Eclipse is not funny anymore, 3.1 M4 is scary clean.
>
And did you ever try using Eclipse (3.0 stable) together with MyEclipse? It's a remarkably low cost solution (MyEclipse costs $31.75 for one year) for great functionality.
My only peeve with Eclipse right now is real state use and interface usability in general. If the eclipse guys learn something about keyborad shortcuts and individually retractable views, well... It's sad to think what could happen.
Dark corner happy place dark corner happy place happy place happy place...
I Develop Enterprise Applications (Appliances, Apples etc.,.)
This is a fun question, also discussed on https://stackoverflow.com/questions/22026104/what-does-the-a-stand-for-in-intellij-idea and https://www.zhihu.com/question/268863333/answer/343235347 LOL