Aspects interesting news

I'm not starting the fire again, and am in no way saying IDEA should
support this, but I think this is a step in the right direction for the
technology, and something to keep an eye on. This doesn't qualify the
use of aspects in code or their un/usefullness.

http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/indextech.cgi/checkout/aspectj-home/aj5a
nnounce.html

R

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Right about now I feel like grabbing a Bible and shouting:

"The Power of Christ Compels You"
"The Power of Christ Compels You"
"The Power of Christ Compels You"

(it's from a scene in the Exorcist)


Maybe that will kill this aspects demon.

:)

No offense Robert. I know you mean well. But I have real world problems
with the EAPs eating up my HTML, barking at my JSPs and otherwise coughing
on attempts to perform some common refactorings.

I do think they should keep their eye on it, though. Just an eye. No
fingers on the keyboard to implement. Just an eye.

:-O



"Robert S. Sfeir" <no_mail@jetbrains.com> wrote in message
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I'm not starting the fire again, and am in no way saying IDEA should
support this, but I think this is a step in the right direction for the
technology, and something to keep an eye on. This doesn't qualify the
use of aspects in code or their un/usefullness.

>

http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/indextech.cgi/checkout/aspectj-home/aj5a
nnounce.html

>

R



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I don't want to start another battle, but I don't agree with you
(although I'm respecting your opinion...).

Personally I'm desperately waiting for aspects support in IDEA, since I
do want to use AOP but aren't willing to change IDE for that.

Michael Morett wrote:

Right about now I feel like grabbing a Bible and shouting:

"The Power of Christ Compels You"
"The Power of Christ Compels You"
"The Power of Christ Compels You"

(it's from a scene in the Exorcist)


Maybe that will kill this aspects demon.

:)

No offense Robert. I know you mean well. But I have real world problems
with the EAPs eating up my HTML, barking at my JSPs and otherwise coughing
on attempts to perform some common refactorings.

I do think they should keep their eye on it, though. Just an eye. No
fingers on the keyboard to implement. Just an eye.

:-O



"Robert S. Sfeir" <no_mail@jetbrains.com> wrote in message
news:no_mail-8C497C.08334919012005@mail.intellij.net...

>>I'm not starting the fire again, and am in no way saying IDEA should
>>support this, but I think this is a step in the right direction for the
>>technology, and something to keep an eye on. This doesn't qualify the
>>use of aspects in code or their un/usefullness.
>>
>>http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/indextech.cgi/checkout/aspectj-home/aj5a
>>nnounce.html
>>
>>R



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Martin Fuhrer
Fuhrer Engineering AG
http://www.fuhrer.com

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Michael

>Maybe that will kill this aspects demon.
>No offense Robert. I know you mean well. But I have real world problems

>


"It's not broken, don't fix it. We have real problems here, the client
is waiting, we can't afford to waste time on refactoring, and unit testing."

I remember clearly, a few years ago, trying to explain to my colleagues
and boss that, well, the existing code was working, but that the project
was not finished, because the(ir) code needed some heavy refactoring,
and that it would require to add loads of automated tests, before we
could start the next phase.

Alain


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I understand some people want this...no worries. I was just feeling "cute"
at about 1am when I posted this.

I'm less inclined to feel as passionate about aspects at this time (on the
negative side) as I was maybe two years ago. At that time, it was so new
(or relatively new) that it seemed people wanted JB to implement it so they
can experiment with it. Since more time has passed, this passage of time
has allowed more people to get a better handle on whether aspects would
indeed prove useful for their needs as opposed to jumping on a technology
for the sake of it. However, you could make the argument that those people
had already made that assessment of whether aspects were valuable at that
time, and this delay provided no value.

I just loved the way Robert prefaced his comment: "I'm not starting the
fire again, and am in no way saying IDEA should support this, but..."

That's good stuff. Like he's afraid to open a can of worms. He normally
speaks his mind, so to see him approach this so cautiously, well I had to
play with him.

No offense intended.


"Martin Fuhrer" <mf@fuhrer.com> wrote in message
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I don't want to start another battle, but I don't agree with you
(although I'm respecting your opinion...).

>

Personally I'm desperately waiting for aspects support in IDEA, since I
do want to use AOP but aren't willing to change IDE for that.

>

Michael Morett wrote:

Right about now I feel like grabbing a Bible and shouting:

>

"The Power of Christ Compels You"
"The Power of Christ Compels You"
"The Power of Christ Compels You"

>

(it's from a scene in the Exorcist)

>
>

Maybe that will kill this aspects demon.

>

:)

>

No offense Robert. I know you mean well. But I have real world

problems

with the EAPs eating up my HTML, barking at my JSPs and otherwise

coughing

on attempts to perform some common refactorings.

>

I do think they should keep their eye on it, though. Just an eye. No
fingers on the keyboard to implement. Just an eye.

>

:-O

>
>
>

"Robert S. Sfeir" <no_mail@jetbrains.com> wrote in message
news:no_mail-8C497C.08334919012005@mail.intellij.net...

>
>>I'm not starting the fire again, and am in no way saying IDEA should
>>support this, but I think this is a step in the right direction for the
>>technology, and something to keep an eye on. This doesn't qualify the
>>use of aspects in code or their un/usefullness.
>>

>
>>http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/indextech.cgi/checkout/aspectj-home/aj5a

>>nnounce.html
>>
>>R
>
>
>

>

--
Martin Fuhrer
Fuhrer Engineering AG
http://www.fuhrer.com



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