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Hello, Florian!
You wrote on Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:52:30 +0400 (MSD):

FH> check this out:
FH> http://www.netbeans.org/download/misc/feature-matrix.pdf

Very fine, but some mistakes:
1. Jar creation support is partialy implemented for Web/J2EE applications
2. Debuger. Highlight variable changes is supported
3. Smart Paste (reformat during paste) is supported
4. Display JavaDoc for focused method usage in ToolTip (by Ctrl+Q)
5. Dynamic Help is supported
6. Technology tuttorials is done (Productivity Guide, Web site)
7. Database Explorer is included for J2EE and EJB project, as far i know

Thanks!
--
Alexey Efimov, Java Developer
Tops-BI
http://www.topsbi.ru


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Hi,

I did never see point 2 happen, can this be configured?

thanks
Mike

Alexey Efimov wrote:

Hello, Florian!
You wrote on Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:52:30 +0400 (MSD):

FH> check this out:
FH> http://www.netbeans.org/download/misc/feature-matrix.pdf

Very fine, but some mistakes:
1. Jar creation support is partialy implemented for Web/J2EE applications
2. Debuger. Highlight variable changes is supported
3. Smart Paste (reformat during paste) is supported
4. Display JavaDoc for focused method usage in ToolTip (by Ctrl+Q)
5. Dynamic Help is supported
6. Technology tuttorials is done (Productivity Guide, Web site)
7. Database Explorer is included for J2EE and EJB project, as far i know

Thanks!
--
Alexey Efimov, Java Developer
Tops-BI
http://www.topsbi.ru

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Alexey Efimov wrote:
Also missing:
- Customizable Menu/Toolbar/Shortcuts: Shortcuts are definitely
customizable, plus we have Quicklists

Hello, Florian!
You wrote on Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:52:30 +0400 (MSD):

FH> check this out:
FH> http://www.netbeans.org/download/misc/feature-matrix.pdf

Very fine, but some mistakes:
1. Jar creation support is partialy implemented for Web/J2EE applications
2. Debuger. Highlight variable changes is supported
3. Smart Paste (reformat during paste) is supported
4. Display JavaDoc for focused method usage in ToolTip (by Ctrl+Q)
5. Dynamic Help is supported
6. Technology tuttorials is done (Productivity Guide, Web site)
7. Database Explorer is included for J2EE and EJB project, as far i know

Thanks!
--
Alexey Efimov, Java Developer
Tops-BI
http://www.topsbi.ru



--
Rob Harwood
Software Developer
JetBrains Inc.
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"

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so then that's even more checks for IDEA roster. Hope you guys are going to request that they change their feature matrix so that IDEA looks yet even better than it already does.

Florian

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Hello, Michael!
You wrote on Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:40:47 +0200:

MG> I did never see point 2 happen, can this be configured?

Nop, it work by default. Then variable is changes in current thread frame,
then you will see it, it will highlighted by blue color. Not changed
variables is dark.

Thanks!
--
Alexey Efimov, Java Developer
Tops-BI
http://www.topsbi.ru


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Hello, Rob!
You wrote on Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:54:39 +0200:

RHJ> - Customizable Menu/Toolbar/Shortcuts: Shortcuts are definitely
RHJ> customizable, plus we have Quicklists

Ops, yes thanks, some misses :)
But, unfortunaly, these features is not so good as to be called
'Customizable' (see MS Office toolbar customizing for example). But realy,
Quick Lists is very usefull feature (I use it by CtrlShift\ for CVS
operation for current file - very helpful), and it expect in comparison
chart! :)

Thanks!
--
Alexey Efimov, Java Developer
Tops-BI
http://www.topsbi.ru


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Strange, in some situations all variables are blue, although only one has
changed.

Tom

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1) I think they mean this to be a target of a java module. This does
not appear to be to difficult to implement. Just add a deployment tab
for java modules and allow just copying of files or jar'ing, then
copying. There is an old RFE on this.
3) This is buggy. An example is method parameters and throw clauses.
You past them and they extend past line end. Reformat will fix.
7) If you say included for J2EE and EJB, that would lead me to believe
that it is available for Servlet/JSP. I have never seen nor heard of this.

Norris Shelton
Sun Certified Java Programmer




Alexey Efimov wrote:

>Hello, Florian!
>You wrote on Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:52:30 +0400 (MSD):
>

FH> check this out:
FH> http://www.netbeans.org/download/misc/feature-matrix.pdf

>
>Very fine, but some mistakes:
>1. Jar creation support is partialy implemented for Web/J2EE applications
>2. Debuger. Highlight variable changes is supported
>3. Smart Paste (reformat during paste) is supported
>4. Display JavaDoc for focused method usage in ToolTip (by Ctrl+Q)
>5. Dynamic Help is supported
>6. Technology tuttorials is done (Productivity Guide, Web site)
>7. Database Explorer is included for J2EE and EJB project, as far i know
>
>Thanks!
>--
>Alexey Efimov, Java Developer
>Tops-BI
>http://www.topsbi.ru
>
>

>

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I think the point of the matrix is not to compare the products. Instead, the focus is that you can get nearly everything found in a commercial IDE or Eclipse as well in NetBeans - for free.

The problem with these feature tables is that they do not tell you, how a feature is implemented. They do not show the productivity aspects of the way a feature is integrated into an IDE.

Specifically, the table does not show that IDEA has integrated most of the stuff much better than its competitors, thus, the 499,-$ are not an investment in feature completeness, but in productivity due to a thoughtful user interface.

This story isn't told by the table, of cource, and it is probably the most difficult part for a developer to explain his boss why he should invest in IntelliJ instead of getting the same features (see feature matrix) free with Eclipse or NetBeans.

Kind regards

Thomas Gülden
Munich, Germany

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Hmm, it skips all of the functionality on the "Analyze" menu, and I didn't see the NetBeans built-in JFluid profiler listed (the only thing from NetBeans that I covet). Also, it doesn't mention anything about modelling tools or GUI builder tools. Otherwise, a fairly good summation, I thought.

--Dave Griffith

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This story isn't told by the table, of cource, and it is probably the most
difficult part for a developer to explain his boss why he should invest in
IntelliJ instead of getting the same features (see feature matrix) free with Eclipse or NetBeans.

IMO, the Jetbrains marketing, should make a paper (maybe in the form of a matrix :) ), to show why and how, the different features in IntelliJ are much better implemented, than the concurrence. This way, developers could easier convince their boss that IntelliJ is a good investment.

Ahmed.

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Norris Shelton wrote:

3) This is buggy. An example is method parameters and throw clauses.
You past them and they extend past line end. Reformat will fix.

Just choose "reformat on paste" instead of "indent on paste" option.

--
Maxim Shafirov
JetBrains Inc.
http://www.intellij.com
"Develop with pleasure!"

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"Alexey Efimov" <aefimov@ztel.ru> wrote in message
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Hello, Michael!
You wrote on Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:40:47 +0200:

>

MG> I did never see point 2 happen, can this be configured?

>

Nop, it work by default. Then variable is changes in current thread frame,
then you will see it, it will highlighted by blue color. Not changed
variables is dark.


This works even in older 3.x version. Very convenient feature.


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Hello, Norris!
You wrote on Mon, 25 Oct 2004 10:39:54 -0400:

NS> 1) I think they mean this to be a target of a java module. This
NS> does not appear to be to difficult to implement. Just add a
NS> deployment tab for java modules and allow just copying of files or
NS> jar'ing, then copying. There is an old RFE on this.

Yes, for simple application IDEA can't build jar file with manifest
declaration. But it still does not mean, that IDEA can't make any jars in
project build. It can, but, trully, not for all deployment platform.

NS> 3) This is buggy. An example is method parameters and throw
NS> clauses. You past them and they extend past line end. Reformat will
fix.

See Maxim post and attachement.

NS> 7) If you say included for J2EE and EJB, that would lead me to
NS> believe that it is available for Servlet/JSP. I have never seen
NS> nor heard of this.

I would like to have this option only if it needed :) For example, it need
for CMP beens. For servlets and JSP and not very-very needed :)

Thanks!
--
Alexey Efimov, Java Developer
Tops-BI
http://www.topsbi.ru





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Hello, Thomas!
You wrote on Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:57:12 +0200:

TSM> Strange, in some situations all variables are blue, although only
TSM> one has changed.

Value is changed then reference is changed too, i guess. Are you sure, that
references are not changed?

Thanks!
--
Alexey Efimov, Java Developer
Tops-BI
http://www.topsbi.ru


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I have it set on Reformat Block.


Norris Shelton
Sun Certified Java Programmer




Maxim Shafirov (JetBrains) wrote:

Norris Shelton wrote:

>
>> 3) This is buggy. An example is method parameters and throw
>> clauses. You past them and they extend past line end. Reformat will
>> fix.
>

Just choose "reformat on paste" instead of "indent on paste" option.

>



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If only IntelliJ would fix the current lost focus / focus grab bugs.

All those other editors dont seem to have a problem with rogue focus grabbing and focus loss..

So much for productivity {:-)

Nick

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