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Sweeeeeet. Now that's a nice Christmas present! :)

Thanks a lot,
Andrei

"Eugene Belyaev" <beg@jetbrains.com> wrote in message
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Eugene

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Hrm, I can't remember how the upgrade deal works. Do we need to buy new licenses, or is there an upgrade price that's <$250?

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This is a license for 3.0. Those who buy now will get a free upgrade to
4.0. If you already own one from last year sale you will be able to
purchase an upgrade to 4.0 for $149.

Eugene


"Hani Suleiman" <hani@formicary.net> wrote in message
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Hrm, I can't remember how the upgrade deal works. Do we need to buy new

licenses, or is there an upgrade price that's <$250?


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Eugene,

>Those who buy now will get a free upgrade to
>4.0. If you already own one from last year sale you will be able to
>purchase an upgrade to 4.0 for $149.
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1°/
The way I understand your reply, and the site info :

At any time, during the year:
- upgrade of a personal license = $149 (*1)
- upgrade of a standard license= $249

During the sale period (now) :
- purchase of a personal license = $249

Am I right?

(*1) would mean that there is no reason to hurry and purchase an
upgrade, if you already own a personal license.



2°/
Isn't it rather a license upDate? UpGRading a personal license sounds
like promoting it to standard license.
I can be wrong. Could some native speakers comment on this?


Alain

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Since there's no difference between the personal and standard license beyond the fact that the former is registered to an individual and the latter is registered to a company, I don't think "upgrading" is changing the license from personal to standard. This is no JBuilder, folks ^^

Upgrading means changing your license from 3.0 to 4.0 -- so if you already owns a 3.0 license you can buy another now for $149

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Ok, let's do it again.

1. If you already own a personal license from previous sales, you should
wait until 4.0 gets released, and if you want you can upgrade your license
to 4.0 personal license for $149. License keys for 3.x will stop working
for 4.0.

2. If you don't have a license at all, you can purchase a personal license
now for $249 and get a free upgrade to 4.0 when it gets released.

3. You will not be able to upgrade this license to a commercial one.

Eugene


"Alain Ravet" <alain.ravet.list@wanadoo.be> wrote in message
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Eugene,

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>Those who buy now will get a free upgrade to
>4.0. If you already own one from last year sale you will be able to
>purchase an upgrade to 4.0 for $149.
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1°/
The way I understand your reply, and the site info :

>

At any time, during the year:
- upgrade of a personal license = $149 (*1)
- upgrade of a standard license= $249

>

During the sale period (now) :
- purchase of a personal license = $249

>

Am I right?

>

(*1) would mean that there is no reason to hurry and purchase an
upgrade, if you already own a personal license.

>
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>

2°/
Isn't it rather a license upDate? UpGRading a personal license sounds
like promoting it to standard license.
I can be wrong. Could some native speakers comment on this?

>
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Alain



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Thanks, bought :)

What a awesome xmas present.

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Where exactly is the line between what you can do with a personal license vs when you need a commercial license?

  • Can you use a personal license if you're a one-person company creating commercial software?

  • What about an X-person company where all X people buy their own license?

  • If you work for a company that provides another IDE and does not want to purchase IDEA, can an employee buy his own personal copy of IDEA to use at that company?

  • What if that employee subsequently puts in a reimbursement request with the company, so the company effectively paid for the license? (the license itself would still be made out to the employee and not the company of course)

  • If you're a consultant working for different clients, can you use a personal license to create commercial software for those clients?

  • ...

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This is on the web site after you click more details...

"Personal licenses are available to individuals only and are provided for personal use in commercial and non-commercial projects.

A Personal license is subject to registration under a personal name and is non-transferable. "

Sounds pretty straightforward to me...

Ben

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Thanks,
just bought my copy.
I wanted to ask you to have a look at the form field(s) for visa card details: normally there's a field that says: fill in the name that's on visa card. On your form there are sparate fields for first and second name, which confused me. Or at least you should write an info popup about this.
(I'm not sure if jetbrains or elemnt5 should change this)

Thanks for a great product..the best things in life aren't free, why that should be I can't tell;-)
-m

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I'm just not sure what "personal use in commercial projects" would mean...

Personal use is typically for non-commercial projects, and use on a commercial project is typically not personal.

Maybe they just mean it has to be registered to you personally, but that would (until jan 15) leave a loophole where companies can save money by having their employees buy a copy themselves and then reimburse them...

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They could do that. A personal license though means that you own it, and not your company. They can't have a pool of personal licenses to hand out to developers, for example.

I'd be pretty amazed if the requirement is not to use a personal license for commercial development (ie, anything non-opensource!)

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If you read the description, it explicitly allows use for commercial
development. The only restriction is that it be registered in an individual
person's name. Even if a company reimburses an employee for the cost, it
allows that employee to take the license with them when they leave. That is
the down-side for a company that uses the 'loophole'. However, it is a big
up-side for both the employee and for JetBrains. If the employee moves on
to another company that does not currently use IntelliJ IDEA, that
individual can bring the IDE with them and once everyone at the new company
sees just how productive the new employee is and how intuitive IDEA is, they
will buy licenses for all their employees.
Actually, it is quite a good marketing scheme. I believe that it is called
the "Trojan Horse".

"Hani Suleiman" <hani@formicary.net> wrote in message
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They could do that. A personal license though means that you own it, and

not your company. They can't have a pool of personal licenses to hand out to
developers, for example.
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I'd be pretty amazed if the requirement is not to use a personal license

for commercial development (ie, anything non-opensource!)
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Okay I waited until 4.0 is released and now it says that an upgrade costs 299! I certainly can't afford this out of my pocket. Does this mean I should convert to eclipse?

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On the upgrade page (http://www.intellij.com/idea/buy/upgrade.html), it says the upgrade price is $299 with "[f]urther discounts are available to academic users and to owners of the annual maintenance package." In other words, there is no mention of a particular upgrade price for holders of 3.x personal licenses.

(On the theory that the $149 price would nevertheless be honored, I tried punching in my license certificate ID and user ID (that I got from my 3.x registration e-mail), but the information I provided wasn't recognized by the system. I sent some e-mail to sales.)

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why don't you just email sales and ask what an upgrade to your personal license would be?

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Upgrade price of personal license is $149. Just follow the normal upgrade process and your license will get recognized as a personal license.

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Upgrade price of personal license is $149. Just
follow the normal upgrade process and your license
will get recognized as a personal license.


Hmmm... I tried doing just that, but the system isn't recognizing my User Name/License Key. (I sent e-mail to sales; hopefully, they figure out what's up.)

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Upgrade price of personal license is $149. Just
follow the normal upgrade process and your license
will get recognized as a personal license.


Hmmm... I tried doing just that, but the system
isn't recognizing my User Name/License Key. (I sent
e-mail to sales; hopefully, they figure out what's
up.)


I'm not sure anymore, but maybe you don't have to enter your license key but your order number (which is contained in your license mail). At least it worked like a charm for me.

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