977: UIDesigner plugin missing?

Not that I use it but the plugin seems to be missing in the zip distribution.

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It's just not a plugin anymore.

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Not that I use it but the plugin seems to be missing in the zip

distribution.


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in the win32-exe-distribution the plugin is also missing

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There is a UI designer plugin available through the plugin manager, though.
Installing it seems to prevent IDEA from starting. (IDEA dies after
outputting tons of exceptions to the console window).

Shouldn't it be removed?

Thx,
Andrei

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It's just not a plugin anymore.

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"Brad Lane" <no_mail@jetbrains.com> wrote in message
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Not that I use it but the plugin seems to be missing in the zip

distribution.

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Why is it not a plugin any more?


By technical reasons. Why do you care?

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Why is it not a plugin any more?



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Why is it not a plugin any more?


By technical reasons. Why do you care?


When we were initially discussing this, there was a number of people (not me) who wanted to have it as a plug-in because they would never use it, and didn't want the bloat of loading the classes, etc.

I have no idea whether this is a valid argument or not. (Actually, I feel pretty strongly that it is a stupid arguement...)

But either way, that is why he "might" care.

Perhaps the real question is whether or not it will migrate back to a plug-in before the final release. (i.e. when the API is sufficiently expanded to work around the technical reasons).

Mike

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We were promised it'd be a plugin, those of us who want to ensure we have nothing to do with it were assured we could simply delete it and pretend it doesn't exist.

I know it's a a bit of an idealogical thing, so practically speaking it isn't the end of the world, but as someone who is very unlikely to use this fairly large chunk of code that is now so tightly integrated in, I'm a little troubled that I can't just remove it like I was told I could.

It isn't such a big deal though, to be fair.

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How are we supposed to redistribute shared classes now?
Should we include the complete idea.jar in our distribution pack?

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Sergei S. Ivanov wrote:

How are we supposed to redistribute shared classes now?
Should we include the complete idea.jar in our distribution pack?


I think you can still use forms_rt.jar from <idea-home>/lib.

Maybe the IDEA installer/zip should include a dedicated "distributable
files" directory though where such required stuff is put.


Sascha


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As someone previously stated, you touted one of the UI Designers features was that it was a plug in. Making it a non plugin doesn't affect me, but it is a change in the UI Designer and it made me curious. I've written a plugin that produces source from the UI Designer form file and I wondered if your reason for changing would have any impact on my plugin. It probably doesn't, but I was curious.

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