Open Project in New Frame dialog

I think that the Yes/No/Cancel buttons are pretty confusing. I don't know why they are more confusing than other Yes/No/Cancel dialogs, but for me, they always have been.

I found a request to change the text on these buttons. It was filed towards the beginning of this year and immediately marked Do Not Fix. (This was http://www.intellij.net/tracker/idea/viewSCR?publicId=9893.)

Does anyone else find this confusing as well? I think this should be reopened, and I think it should have been marked Open for Discussion before it was marked Do Not Fix, at least, to see if it was confusing for other people.

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Keith Lea wrote:

I think that the Yes/No/Cancel buttons are pretty confusing. I don't know why they are more confusing than other Yes/No/Cancel dialogs, but for me, they always have been.

I found a request to change the text on these buttons. It was filed towards the beginning of this year and immediately marked Do Not Fix. (This was http://www.intellij.net/tracker/idea/viewSCR?publicId=9893.)

Does anyone else find this confusing as well? I think this should be reopened, and I think it should have been marked Open for Discussion before it was marked Do Not Fix, at least, to see if it was confusing for other people.


I don't find the current dialog confusing. Frankly, I don't see how it
could be more direct and concise, and I don't care much for your
suggested wording. What I DO wish is that I could change the default.

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It wasn't my wording - that's not my ITN request. Many usability guides, however, do not recommend the use of Yes, No, and Cancel as buttons in dialogs.

From Apple's UI guidelines:
Button names should correspond to the action the user performs when pressing the button—for example, Erase, Save, or Delete. (http://developer.apple.com/documentation/UserExperience/Conceptual/AquaHIGuidelines)

From GNOME's:
Label all buttons with imperative verbs, using header capitalization. For example, Save, Sort or Update Now.
(http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/hig/1.0/hig-1.0.pdf)

From KDE's:
Rephrasing the question as an Either-Or question will help make this more clear: "Do you want to save or discard your changes?". Now there can be buttons labeled "Save" and "Discard", and the consequences of both are equally clear.
(http://developer.kde.org/documentation/standards/kde/style/dialogs/simple.html#yesno)

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In article <9643629.1066946604693.JavaMail.itn@is.intellij.net>,
Keith Lea <keith@cs.oswego.edu> wrote:

Does anyone else find this confusing as well? I think this should be
reopened, and I think it should have been marked Open for Discussion before
it was marked Do Not Fix, at least, to see if it was confusing for other
people.


It confuses me every time too. I'd love to see it fixed, but it's lower
priority to me than lots of other things that need to be fixed.

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Michael Besosa wrote:

I don't find the current dialog confusing. Frankly, I don't see how it
could be more direct and concise, and I don't care much for your
suggested wording. What I DO wish is that I could change the default.


The problem is that Yes/No buttons are dependent on the user having
fully read and understood the question. If you're in a hurry, or just
lazy (like me ;), often you'll just go for a button to get rid of the
dialog. If the buttons were more clearly labelled then there would be
less chance of picking the wrong button.

Perhaps I should revise my suggestions: New Frame, Current Frame.

Ciao,
Gordon

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I think Frame is confusing unless you've used Swing before. Why not "New window" and "Current window"?

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Keith Lea wrote:

I think Frame is confusing unless you've used Swing before. Why not "New window" and "Current window"?


Yup that would be good too.

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Gordon Tyler (Software Developer)
Quest Software <http://java.quest.com/>
260 King Street East, Toronto, Ontario M5A 4L5, Canada
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Or why not just always open the project in a new frame/window? When you
open a document in Word, it doesn't ask you if you want to close the
existing one. If you only want one project open at a time, you should
close the current one and open the new one.

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Erik Hanson wrote:

Or why not just always open the project in a new frame/window? When you
open a document in Word, it doesn't ask you if you want to close the
existing one. If you only want one project open at a time, you should
close the current one and open the new one.


That is a very good point.

+1

Ciao,
Gordon

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Gordon Tyler (Software Developer)
Quest Software <http://java.quest.com/>
260 King Street East, Toronto, Ontario M5A 4L5, Canada
Voice: 416-643-4846 | Fax: 416-594-1919

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I completely agree.

Vlad

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+1
great idea! please post a feature request!!!

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