IDEA on 64bit Vista?

My notebook just broke and I wonder if it is worth it to ask for
a 64bit version of Vista on a new notebook, mainly to be able to use more RAM.

Until the costs of 4GB SO-DIMMS drop, I would install 4GB.
My old notebook had 4GB RAM, but only 3.2 GB were accessible by Windows XP
(which was not enough when I opened two large IDEA projects, JBoss, Oracle,
Word, Excel, and a Virtual PC with IE 6 to check my web app that older browser).

So: How are your experiences with IDEA on 64bit Vista?
Any issues to expect?

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Hello Stephen,

My notebook just broke and I wonder if it is worth it to ask for a
64bit version of Vista on a new notebook, mainly to be able to use
more RAM.

Until the costs of 4GB SO-DIMMS drop, I would install 4GB.
My old notebook had 4GB RAM, but only 3.2 GB were accessible by
Windows XP
(which was not enough when I opened two large IDEA projects, JBoss,
Oracle,
Word, Excel, and a Virtual PC with IE 6 to check my web app that older
browser).
So: How are your experiences with IDEA on 64bit Vista? Any issues to
expect?


That's what I'm using on my development machine (with a 32-bit JDK), and
it works very well.

--
Dmitry Jemerov
Development Lead
JetBrains, Inc.
http://www.jetbrains.com/
"Develop with Pleasure!"


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I"ve been running IDEA on Vista x64 for about sixth months now. Overall, it's been fine. I did have a couple of days where the JVM running IDEA crashed. I would be working along and suddenly the IDEA window was gone. There was a HotSpot crash log (hs_err*) present. It happened four or five times over a couple of days, then just stopped. I think it might have been related to a bad video driver. Overall, I've been very happy with Vista 64-bit.

I'm running a Quad core with 8GB RAM. Having more memory accessible makes a huge difference. During a typical work period (with IDEA, a Tomcat server, a VMWare Virtual Workstation running a VM, and a few other misc applications) I'm using about 4GB of memory; sometimes more when I fire up a second VM. And the 64-bit OS is definitely much faster.

I ran IDEA under the 32-bit JRE for the first five months. I recently switched to the 64-bit JRE to see how that was. It's running fine.

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Thanks for the answers!
Today I have ordered a new notebook (Dell M6300) with 64bit-Vista and 4 GB RAM.
Will be interesting to check the speed differences...

Stephen Friedrich wrote:

My notebook just broke and I wonder if it is worth it to ask for
a 64bit version of Vista on a new notebook, mainly to be able to use
more RAM.

Until the costs of 4GB SO-DIMMS drop, I would install 4GB.
My old notebook had 4GB RAM, but only 3.2 GB were accessible by Windows XP
(which was not enough when I opened two large IDEA projects, JBoss, Oracle,
Word, Excel, and a Virtual PC with IE 6 to check my web app that older
browser).

So: How are your experiences with IDEA on 64bit Vista?
Any issues to expect?

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I personally cant stand Vista because its so slow. I did not build a 6k+ workstation to have it run like a 5 year old machine. I am using XP x64 (windows server 2003 really) and after nLiting it is as fast as it can be. Opening up projects that took minutes on dual core 2 ghz 2 gb ram machines take seconds. Intellij really comes to its own on that system along with a 32 bit version of JDK. I see you have already purchased Vista but if you ever feel like its a bit slow for your tastes, try out XP x64. Its awesome! :)

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When I built my machine in January, I debated long and hard on whether to install Vista x64 or XP x64. The main debate point became availability of things for XP x64. In particular, for me, was the availability of a (quality) anti-virus and firewall program. (Given the low level nature of these apps, you must have one specifically for 64-bit.) The program I have used for the past 7 or 8 years (and am therefore very use to) was available for Vista 32 & 64, but only 32-bit for XP. There were also some driver availability concerns with XP x64. So as much as I wanted to try it, XP 64-bit just wasn't an option for me.

In the end, I created a multi-boot machine with Vista x64 and XP 32-bit. My original intention was to use XP as my main OS and just start playing around with Vista. But the Vista install was so much faster that the XP install with it being 64-bit; so that became my primary OS. I haven't really had any issues with Vista. To be frank, I've been very happy with Vista.

The bottom line, IMHO, is this... Vista needs a robust machine to run. But if it has it, it runs fine. Lest we forget, XP had the same issues when it came out. It too did not run so well on machines that were 5 years old (on the date of its release).

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You dont need to have a firewall or an AV these days. And there are plenty out for XP x64. If you need more information check out www.planetamd64.com

It is just bogus to see a new OS whilst not adding anything new to the plate that is blatantly obvious other than the UI changes to take up so much resources. I
am running a QX9650 system overclocked with 4 gb of low latency oclocked memory, raptors in raid 0, and if that feels sluggish compared to another OS then one would have to conclude that that OS is just not worth installing or bothering with at all. That was mainly my experience with Vista. :)

And sure XP was a slug when it came out but it was not this bad. I remember on my p4 it flew quite nicely.

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