Idea 4.0 release date

Things seem to speed up, so maybe it's time to
ask Intellij guys: what is your estimate for releasing 4.0?


19 comments
Comment actions Permalink

Probably the end of November.

--
Valentin Kipiatkov
JetBrains, Inc
http://www.intellij.com
"Develop with pleasure!"

"Michal Szklanowski" <szklanowski@acn.waw.pl> wrote in message
news:bl6g5t$n90$1@is.intellij.net...

Things seem to speed up, so maybe it's time to
ask Intellij guys: what is your estimate for releasing 4.0?

>
>


0
Comment actions Permalink

Very conservative prediction!
I hope, you masters, release done earlier from 'end of november'

Time to start totalizator about "Lets guess Aurora release date"! :) (joke)

--
Alexey Efimov, Software Engineer
Sputnik Labs,
http://www.spklabs.com
"Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote in message
news:bl97bi$oqv$1@is.intellij.net...

Probably the end of November.

>

--
Valentin Kipiatkov
JetBrains, Inc
http://www.intellij.com
"Develop with pleasure!"

>

"Michal Szklanowski" <szklanowski@acn.waw.pl> wrote in message
news:bl6g5t$n90$1@is.intellij.net...

Things seem to speed up, so maybe it's time to
ask Intellij guys: what is your estimate for releasing 4.0?

>
>

>
>


0
Comment actions Permalink

that is really only 8 weeks away. I think that is a pretty aggressive estimate. There is a lot to do still. Looking at all the bugs/features that are not done yet. J2EE/openAPI/help files ect.

0
Comment actions Permalink

Hi Valentin,

I hope that until end of EAP there still will be time for some
improvements in areas that made IDEA to what it is now: refactorings.
Especially I think in the direction of "Make Instance Method" and "Move
Instance Method". These are features, that users need (at least me) -
not gimmicks like animated scrolling.

Tom


0
Comment actions Permalink

And don't forget optimizations.

0
Comment actions Permalink


"Make Method Instance" and "Move" (for an instance method) have been discussed for at least a year-and-a-half now, and there's been very little interest from JetBrains. They're not in the Aurora roadmap, and it seems very unlikely they'll do them in the next nine weeks. That said, I was in the process of writing up a kick-off post for "Top Five Features you want for the next IDEA release", and that was definitely on my list.

--Dave

0
Comment actions Permalink

Shouldn't our top 10 list come out of the voting forums? I personally dislike those type of threads because the smaller but loud minority often get heard. It's easy to get 3 or 4 loud users complaining about aspectj (probably maven this time) and next thing you know we all pay for a feature that only a few care about.

Is there is any way for me to convince you NOT to post a

"what do you want next in idea"
or
"what is your biggest complaint"
?

0
Comment actions Permalink


Actually, the voting forums came out big for both AspectJ and Maven, as I recall, while the previous "Things you most want to see in Aurora" thread included a lot of people trying to shout them down. (Note, for instance, that Maven and Subversion support are the highest current open vote getters. Not bad for freeware products in beta with tiny user-bases.) That's part of what I was hoping to avoid.

0
Comment actions Permalink

As usual Thomas, I completely agree.
Please implement "move instance method" before going to a freeze.
Stay ahead of your competition in an arena that has always been yours.
Please give us poor souls that cannot use the big aurora features (generics, aspects, gui builder) a really needed, always usable, cost reducing/quality improvement feature.
I understand the reason for doing the other big items but I still don't understand why they were more important in your opinion (BTW I do not want to start another flame here. I am just begging for this refactoring as so many of us have done in the past).

please please please.

Jacques

0
Comment actions Permalink

maybe you could provide a high level list of options to keep people on topic liek

a. refactorings
b. ui improvements
c. maven

0
Comment actions Permalink

All features which will be included into Aurora release are already marked
with "Planned for version" == "Aurora" in the tracker. No more features are
planned to be added.

--
Valentin Kipiatkov
JetBrains, Inc
http://www.intellij.com
"Develop with pleasure!"

"Thomas Singer" <idea@NOregnisSpam.de> wrote in message
news:bl9chm$c3i$1@is.intellij.net...

Hi Valentin,

>

I hope that until end of EAP there still will be time for some
improvements in areas that made IDEA to what it is now: refactorings.
Especially I think in the direction of "Make Instance Method" and "Move
Instance Method". These are features, that users need (at least me) -
not gimmicks like animated scrolling.

>

Tom

>
>


0
Comment actions Permalink

And don't forget optimizations.


Of course.

--
Valentin Kipiatkov
JetBrains, Inc
http://www.intellij.com
"Develop with pleasure!"

"charles decroes" <spam@decroes.com> wrote in message
news:25034994.1064844535796.JavaMail.itn@is.intellij.net...

And don't forget optimizations.



0
Comment actions Permalink

Well that is too bad that "move instance method" refactoring (that Eclipse has right now) is not in that list but I understand that you have to draw the line.
BTW do I imagine things or was that refactoring supposed to be done in Aurora at one point in the past?

Jacques

0
Comment actions Permalink

since we're getting close, can we get a status update for AspectJ integration? I asked over in the aspect forum, but haven't gotten much of a response...

http://www.intellij.net/forums/thread.jsp?forum=34&thread=43413&tstart=0&trange=50

0
Comment actions Permalink

Somethink wrong in time on forums? I just look at post time and can't belive on that. The midnight, but JetBrains is continue working...
Maybe it becouse we always ask for new build :(, but men is not machines... Since this time i never will vote for faster build releasing.
A pity point of my view!

0
Comment actions Permalink

Jacques Morel wrote:

Well that is too bad that "move instance method" refactoring (that Eclipse
has right now) is not in that list but I understand that you have to draw
the line. BTW do I imagine things or was that refactoring supposed to be
done in Aurora at one point in the past?


Yes, that is correct. But as you rightly said, we have to draw the line at
some point. IDEA without "Move method" is better than dead IDEA, isn't it?

Friendly,
Dmitry
--
Dmitry Lomov
IntelliJ Labs / JetBrains Inc.
http://www.intellij.com
"Develop with pleasure!"

0
Comment actions Permalink

Thomas Singer wrote:

Hi Valentin,

I hope that until end of EAP there still will be time for some
improvements in areas that made IDEA to what it is now: refactorings.
Especially I think in the direction of "Make Instance Method" and "Move
Instance Method". These are features, that users need (at least me) -
not gimmicks like animated scrolling.


Thomas,
could you diversify your list of gimmicks a bit, please? :)
There is only one that you complain about so far :)

Cheers,
Dmitry
--
Dmitry Lomov
IntelliJ Labs / JetBrains Inc.
http://www.intellij.com
"Develop with pleasure!"

0
Comment actions Permalink

From my personal point of view, a very big one is AspectJ (yes, I know,
it might have some value in a small border case). Don't know how large
the cost-value-ratio is...

Tom

0

Please sign in to leave a comment.