New icons in IDEA Follow

Generally I like them. There's a few dodgy ones - e.g. I think the
Commander and TODO tool window icons are too complex for their size....

Stanislav Davydov (JetBrains) wrote:

Do you like new icons in IDEA?

I like some of them, but several icons looks worse than old IDEA icons.

Stanislav Davydov (JetBrains) wrote:

Do you like new icons in IDEA?

I like some of them, but several icons looks worse than old IDEA icons.

The new ErrorReporting icon is not very readable/discernable. I like the
general concept (ER superimposed over a red cross), but there is not enough
contrast with the icon to be able to read ER easily--esp. with the default
color scheme/theme.

I agree. It took me a while to figure out what the Commander icon was, and I think I remember liking the old TODO icon better (thouhg I don't remember what it was).

One thing that ought to be considered a bit more on the icons is how understandable when they are "on their side". I have the "commander" icon in the toolbar on the right side of my screen. After looking at the thing for a while, I finally had to turn my head to the side to figure out what it was.

It might be worth noting that this is the only icon that I needed to do this for. Most of the rest of them are fine no matter what orientation you are in.

-Matt

I don't like the TODO icon on the IDEA settings page. Looks like a bloke with big glasses.

And when I set up a new file type, the same icon is used to on the file as well ... :(

The icon for JSPs is much better now (the color)...

I don't like the new debug icon. The bug on top of an arrow is harder to see. I would like it as just a bug.

The reload icon arrows almost look parallel to me rather than a circle. The reload icon in IE gives a better impressions that the arrows are forming a circle IMO. .

The Make project icon is funky, but I don't have a better idea, though.

I don't like the pastel color palette. I prefer bolder colors. Also, I prefer crisper icons because they look better on higher resolution screens (which cause the icons to look smaller).

For instance, The Save icon (Disk) should be black which is standard on many other applications I use. I don't really like the light purple.

I wonder if they should just rotate the icons (but clearly not the text)
for the left and right sides.

Jon

Matthew Flower wrote:

One thing that ought to be considered a bit more on the icons is how understandable when they are "on their side". I have the "commander" icon in the toolbar on the right side of my screen. After looking at the thing for a while, I finally had to turn my head to the side to figure out what it was.

It might be worth noting that this is the only icon that I needed to do this for. Most of the rest of them are fine no matter what orientation you are in.

-Matt

I like the debug icon. Not sure about todo and command yet

I dont like the icon for custom file type(seems like a half-length man??). It likes a toy. I my opinion, the "Custom" means "customize" not "customer", so it's better to NOT use a head portrait.

Thanks

I agree. In general I like the new ones, but the GC- and
Commander-buttons looks worse than before.

Tom

Do you mean rotate to always show them in their natural orientation?
Then +1 from me.

Tom

As already requested, I would like the Run icon to use the "arrow" from
the Debug icon, too, to show its similarity.

Tom

+1
Also Changed place of "Run" button (moved right from combobox) is too hard
of using. I like placement that be previos.
Error reporting icon is flat and not look like all other icons in IDE
Settings. Also "Diff" icon.
Save icon worse that before in Ariadna :)

Thanks!


--
Alexey Efimov, Software Engineer
Sputnik Labs,
http://www.spklabs.com
"Thomas Singer" <idea@regnis.de> wrote in message
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I agree. In general I like the new ones, but the GC- and
Commander-buttons looks worse than before.

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Tom

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Do you mean rotate to always show them in their
natural orientation?
Then +1 from me.

Tom

Another +1.
Especially after wondering about the "drowning fish" when you have the CVS window on the left (which also somewhat resembles a falling bomb - well, it would fit the new splash screen).

Regards,
Jens

+1

I don't like the new debug icon. The bug on top of an
arrow is harder to see. I would like it as just a
bug.

ER icon already removed. Error-Reporting settings moved to the ER dialog.

"Berin Loritsch" <bloritsch@d-haven.org> wrote in message news:bj2ku7$nc8$1@is.intellij.net...

Stanislav Davydov (JetBrains) wrote:

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Do you like new icons in IDEA?

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I like some of them, but several icons looks worse than old IDEA icons.

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The new ErrorReporting icon is not very readable/discernable. I like the
general concept (ER superimposed over a red cross), but there is not enough
contrast with the icon to be able to read ER easily--esp. with the default
color scheme/theme.

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+10

The old debug icon was much clearer!

"Alex"

I don't like the pastel color palette. I prefer bolder colors. Also, I

prefer crisper icons because they look better on higher resolution screens
(which cause the icons to look smaller).

Yes, I agree. This makes me think that contrast setting of my monitor went
away. They also seem kind of out of focus, it is hard to concentrate on
them. Make them bolder, crisper, brighter, with sharp edges. Better yet,
make two or three sets of icons for different tastes. It seems that tastes,
though they differ, are grouped into several distinctive groups.

Palette: soft pastel / sharp bright
LAF: should change with LAF change or system theme change / should stay the
same
Color: coloured / black-and-while (I know people who prefer bw icons, I like
them too, like ones in Outlook Express 5.x-6.x. Again, bw icons fits much
better into different LAFs and when overall system or app colors are
changed.
Size: very small / small / bigger
Arrangement: fixed position, standard toolbar / variable position, custom
toolbar
Localization: international symbols / localized symbols. The classic example
here is the mailbox icon, which in US is a tubular thing on a pole with red
lever, and in many european countries it is a blue or yellow box with yellow
or white text on in like POST. I do not see the examples of totally
inappropriate icons for a particular locale, but this is an issue that
should be held in mind. We saw it in the ad examples, that not all people
got the meaning of the ad with men, pulling the barge :)
Text: text on or near an icon / no text
Position: fixed under the main menu / floating, can be docked on the same
level with system menu. Attached an example of menu/toolbar combination I
prefer for IE. I understand that IDEA has much more menu items and icons,
but it is nice to be able to select only needed subset to put onto toolbar.
Menu item resizing: shrink each menu item / cut the toolbar and attach a
submenu with items that were hidden because of resize. Notice how IE maps
menu items into submenu. Granted, I did not play a lot with Aurora, but
Ariadna cannot handle window size change gracefully, it cuts menu items (at
least this is better that just to cut the whole menu bar, I am not sure do I
like this behaviour or not, but I would prefer it to follow standards for a
particular platform), and simply cuts toolbar, leaving all buttons out of
the reach.

Michael Jouravlev

I still don't understand what the commander icon is.

Looks like the head of a sergeant major or something.. some soldier with
a beret and mustache?

Russell Egan wrote:

I still don't understand what the commander icon is.

Here's the graphic, rotated and blown up. Now I see he's wearing a
peaked cap not a beret :)

N.

Nathan Brown wrote:

Looks like the head of a sergeant major or something.. some soldier with
a beret and mustache?

Russell Egan wrote:

>> I still don't understand what the commander icon is.

I don't know. It looks like a regiment insignia from the Transformers to me.

Nathan Brown wrote:

Here's the graphic, rotated and blown up. Now I see he's wearing a
peaked cap not a beret :)

Ummmm... the little dude looks like Stalin! :)

R

Nathan Brown wrote:

Here's the graphic, rotated and blown up. Now I see he's wearing a
peaked cap not a beret :)

haha and now that I see it bigger, I like the little dude! Keep him!

R

Thomas Singer wrote:

Do you mean rotate to always show them in their natural orientation?
Then +1 from me.

Yes, I did. Here a new request for it:
http://www.intellij.net/tracker/idea/viewSCR?publicId=15755

Jon

Why not use the Green Beret? ;)

Tom

Ah, the starting sounds of that game keep echoing in my mind now. The lound siren, then the ruffling drums... and there you go, valiant, with just a knife and your... Green Beret!