version 7

hey
been using idea since version 3 and enjoy using it but this version.

Having far too many problems with this 7 to go into detail with all of them . going to go back to 6. code completion is no longer, fast, hangs and breaks too often and just about every action takes time. disappointing really as idea is one of the best ides out there (still love using it though). this version just feels bloated and unfinished.

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Hello ive,

hey been using idea since version 3 and enjoy using it but this
version.

Having far too many problems with this 7 to go into detail with all of
them . going to go back to 6. code completion is no longer, fast,
hangs and breaks too often and just about every action takes time.
disappointing really as idea is one of the best ides out there (still
love using it though). this version just feels bloated and
unfinished.


Thank you for your helpful and specific feedback.

--
Dmitry Jemerov
Development Lead
JetBrains, Inc.
http://www.jetbrains.com/
"Develop with Pleasure!"


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Yeah sure Ive, but IntelliJ 7 is better in other ways, full of new stuff, and other things too, hope that helps :)

Gilles

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ya like the new stuff. the spring dependency view is pretty neat. Also the persistence support is quite impressive.

Although generating persistence mapping files against a datasource will cause idea to hang for me.

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I think 7 is a great improvement over 6. I have no performance problems with completion.

IMHO 7 seems to perform much better than 6.

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ive - if you take a moment to get cpu snapshots during your performance problems, JetBrains is typically speedy about addressing those when you file a JIRA issue with the CPU snapshot. If you need more information on how to do that, let me know.
Cheers,
Jon

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Actually I agree.

It didn't really surprise me though, since the same thing happened when version 6 was released. I didn't upgrade until version 6.03 came out because of the huge number of bugs I found in the 6.0 release.

Now there are so many little annoyances in version 7 I find it hard to believe this got through QA. I downloaded the 7.01 version for a 30 day trial and within a week I am now uninstalling it.

There are indeed to many annoyances to mention, but I will list a few here that I remember:

- When writing HTML, if I start typing a '<br', the editor turns it into '<br =""' while I usually keep typing only to notice later on that the structure is completely messed up and I have to manually go back and fix it. It makes no sense to start an attribute in a br-tag and I find the way the auto-insertion works now in HTML-editing very annoying.

- Sometimes when I use the debugger with Tomcat integration the breakpoints are not working (The debugger doesn't halt execution). It doesn't happen all the time though, so it is not consistent. It takes a lot of time, because I have to manually check if my code is indeed taking the expected path or if IntelliJ is at fault.
Usually this happens after a couple of successful runs. So may be it has to do with running out of memory or something like that, but it is very annoying.

- A lot of usability issues. When I press CTRL + I or CTRL + O for implementing or overriding a method, the default focus is not set. When I press CTRL + P for seeing the parameter information in a nested structure, often the wrong parameters are shown that make no sense at all. It happened a couple of times that 3 or more hints were shown with different parameter-description and none of them were the one I want. This worked flawlessly in IDEA 6.

- When you fix an intention warning in Java code, the fix is not always picked up. I usually have to select all code, cut it and paste it in again to trigger a new intention-check.

Overall Version 7 simply doesn't feel like it is ready yet. I'm sure it will turn into a very nice IDE after a couple of updates, just as happened with earlier releases. I just wish Jetbrains would spend some more QA time before releasing a new major x.0-version.

I'll try again in a couple of months. If I like it I'll buy it. For now I'm happy with 6 (although performance-improvements would be nice).

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Forget the debugger-issue I just mentioned. I just had the same thing happening in IntelliJ 6 and then my U3 drive would't startup on insert either and then some other problems started to occur... I've been running my Windows XP machine for a couple of days without rebooting. After a system restart, the debugger problem went away. So I now blame Windows for that one :o)

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Likewise I've been using intellij since 2.0, however the modern releases definitely need that "bedding down" phase. I didn't take 6 until 6.0.2 and I'm having to uninstall 7.0.1.

Too many useability issues to submit a report for each - sorry.
Frequent pauses.
Typing new lines of code in a simple class (200 lines) far slower than typing speed, even after turning off all new code inspections.
Something very fishy with the file synchronisation on windows (external changes to iml + ipr files not picked up).
After merging conflicts after svn update, it said file had changed on disk + memory (disk still held merge conflicts).
After svn update some files were not updated, the in-memory copy was old, the disk was the latest version.

For me the real killer is not being able to trust memory + disk synchronisation.

Thanks for the amazing earlier versions
I look forward to trying again in a couple of months.
Dan

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