The original post said, approximately, "How great would it be if there was an Intellij Idea for Ruby."
Not "You guys should build Ruby in the existing Idea."
Not "Idea should be an open IDE framework, like Eclipse."
Not "Idea should handle every language, and do everything."
Not "Idea should be encumbered with every feature I can think of until it bursts like a rotten fruit."
Not "I want Idea to DIE! I hate it, and I hate all of you, and I work for the forces of EVIL! And MAVEN!"
Not "Idea = Fascism."
Was the comment a little frivilous? I guess. Will it ultimately lead to the downfall of Idea, purportedly the greatest feat ever accomplished by man or god, hallowed be thy name? Um...probably not. Should the poster be tarred, feathered, and run out of town? Seems a little harsh to me.
Has the response to this topic been orders of magnitude more silly than the first post? Oh yeah. You're right, that was fun.
Patently untrue - the real programmers work only with FORTRAN and if it is not enough they switch to assembler. All these run-rime linked OO languages are for suckers only. No respected programmers would use something other than ED for development and of course no stupid IDEs.
The real programmers only work with JAVA. Please never support any other language. If you use another language then don't buy IDEA, go with ECLIPSE that at least have syntaxis highlight and some compiler options (no refactorings, no
That's a valid point. On the other hand, I continue to be surprised by
how uncivil and melodramatic people can be in this setting. Yeah, watching flame wars is fun and all, but on the other hand, this list is also where valuable information and feedback is supposed to come from. It's like trying to watching a documentary and a soap opera at the same time. Oh well, I guess that's why picture-in-picture was invented :)
I like a good soap. Some of the best even try to be documentary-like (ER). Intrigues, lies, deception, heroes: the mix of good old ingridients. Plus cool buzzwords, hi-tech equipment and caring hands. They give the incider feeling, the sense of being a part of something.
(taking deep breath) Free IDEA! No to sharks of imperialism! Yes to the best Java IDE! El pueblo unido jamas sera vencido!
The literal interpretation would be "I wish there was a tool like Intellij for Ruby." One would presume the "If Only..." in the title denotes the philosophical nature of the thought.
And even if you interpretation were correct, wouldn't a response like "Mmm, no that's not a good idea, because..." be more adult than "I didn't find your post particularly lighthearted (there's nothing funny about destroying our favorite IDE)...If you can't handle people disagreeing with you then you shouldn't post."
A reasonable interpretation of your and others' responses to this and other topics would be "You are a thoughtless, selfish, retarded pig-buggerer who has just wasted everyone's time, poisoned the entire EAP process, ensured the demise of our beloved IDE, and probably initiated the gradual decline and implosion of our corrupt, decadent society. Thanks a lot for the next dark age, devil."
To be fair, I'm quoting mostly Hani's posts, but I think yours was somewhat in the same vein. ;)
One would presume the "If Only..." in the title denotes the philosophical nature of the thought.
While in the midst of an early-access forum for Idea? What could possibly be the point of this sort of "philosophical" musing aside from (hint hint, nudge nudge, wink wink) trying to get people clamoring for Ruby support and thus waste even more of IntelliJ's time.
wouldn't a response like "Mmm, no that's not a good idea, because..." be more adult than "I didn't find your ..."?
No, because if I said that instead I would have answered the wrong post (the topic as opposed to the grousing reply that this has become a "flame war")
A reasonable interpretation of your and others' responses to this and other topics would be "You are a thoughtless, selfish, retarded pig-buggerer who has just wasted everyone's time, poisoned the entire EAP process, ensured the demise of our beloved IDE, and probably initiated the gradual decline and implosion of our corrupt, decadent society. Thanks a lot for the next dark age, devil."
+A reasonable interpretation of your and others' responses to this and other topics would be "You are a thoughtless, selfish, retarded pig-buggerer who has just wasted everyone's time, poisoned the entire EAP process, ensured the demise of our beloved IDE, and probably initiated the gradual decline and implosion of our corrupt, decadent society. Thanks a lot for the next dark age, devil."+
Yes, that sums it up nicely. :)
Oh good. As long as we're all on the same page...:)
On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 15:43:38 -0400, Robert S. Sfeir wrote:
Can IDEA support ColdFusion and WiTango please? I mean if you're gonna add PHP, we should also have those 2 things.
Hani, I was hoping that the request was a joke too... alas it doesn't seem like it, I think Steve was serious when he asked.
On a SERIOUS request thou - user definable syntax highlighting would be handy, even if theres no "pragmatic" support, highlighting would be handy.
Esp. for when editing jython scripts, or sql statements etc.
-- ...turn to the light - don't be frightened by the shadows it creates, ...turn to the light - turning away could be a terrible mistake ...dream theater - the great debate
On Wed, 02 Jul 2003 18:39:06 +1200, Mark Derricutt <pinhead@satinism.org> wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 15:43:38 -0400, Robert S. Sfeir wrote:
> >> Can IDEA support ColdFusion and WiTango please? I mean if you're gonna >> add PHP, we should also have those 2 things. >> >> Hani, I was hoping that the request was a joke too... alas it doesn't >> seem >> like it, I think Steve was serious when he asked. >
On a SERIOUS request thou - user definable syntax highlighting would be handy, even if theres no "pragmatic" support, highlighting would be handy.
>
Esp. for when editing jython scripts, or sql statements etc.
IDEA is dead in the water unless we have PICK support.
... and MUMPS. I know a bloke who works in a hospital, and he said IDEA needs MUMPS support.
:-/
--
Erb
============================================================== "Most of you are familiar with the virtues of a programmer. There are three, of course: laziness, impatience, and hubris." - Larry Wall ==============================================================
I can understand why you wouldn't find it lighthearted since you interpreted it in such an unnecessarily melodramatic context.
Can't wait to read. Ho ho ho (evil laugh)
The hyperbole is mounting.
The original post said, approximately, "How great would it be if there was an Intellij Idea for Ruby."
Not "You guys should build Ruby in the existing Idea."
Not "Idea should be an open IDE framework, like Eclipse."
Not "Idea should handle every language, and do everything."
Not "Idea should be encumbered with every feature I can think of until it bursts like a rotten fruit."
Not "I want Idea to DIE! I hate it, and I hate all of you, and I work for the forces of EVIL! And MAVEN!"
Not "Idea = Fascism."
Was the comment a little frivilous? I guess. Will it ultimately lead to the downfall of Idea, purportedly the greatest feat ever accomplished by man or god, hallowed be thy name? Um...probably not. Should the poster be tarred, feathered, and run out of town? Seems a little harsh to me.
Has the response to this topic been orders of magnitude more silly than the first post? Oh yeah.
You're right, that was fun.
Patently untrue - the real programmers work only with FORTRAN and if it is
not enough they switch to assembler. All these run-rime linked OO languages
are for suckers only. No respected programmers would use something other
than ED for development and of course no stupid IDEs.
Alex Oscherov
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how uncivil and melodramatic people can be in this setting. Yeah, watching
flame wars is fun and all, but on the other hand, this list is also where
valuable information and feedback is supposed to come from. It's like
trying to watching a documentary and a soap opera at the same time. Oh
well, I guess that's why picture-in-picture was invented :)
I like a good soap. Some of the best even try to be documentary-like (ER).
Intrigues, lies, deception, heroes: the mix of good old ingridients. Plus
cool buzzwords, hi-tech equipment and caring hands. They give the incider
feeling, the sense of being a part of something.
(taking deep breath) Free IDEA! No to sharks of imperialism! Yes to the best
Java IDE! El pueblo unido jamas sera vencido!
What is Ruby, anyway? ;)
I actually would like true javascript support! :P
I'm not sure how else to interpret:
"How great would it be if there was an Intellij Idea for Ruby."
Except to interpret it as:
"You guys should build Ruby in the existing Idea."
I agree. That should be a plugin or at least something I can turn off. The
less clutter the better.
"Rayz" <no_mail@jetbrains.com> wrote in message
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context menu of a Java IDE...? ... :)
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what it does.
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The literal interpretation would be "I wish there was a tool like Intellij for Ruby." One would presume the "If Only..." in the title denotes the philosophical nature of the thought.
And even if you interpretation were correct, wouldn't a response like "Mmm, no that's not a good idea, because..." be more adult than "I didn't find your post particularly lighthearted (there's nothing funny about destroying our favorite IDE)...If you can't handle people disagreeing with you then you shouldn't post."
A reasonable interpretation of your and others' responses to this and other topics would be "You are a thoughtless, selfish, retarded pig-buggerer who has just wasted everyone's time, poisoned the entire EAP process, ensured the demise of our beloved IDE, and probably initiated the gradual decline and implosion of our corrupt, decadent society. Thanks a lot for the next dark age, devil."
To be fair, I'm quoting mostly Hani's posts, but I think yours was somewhat in the same vein. ;)
One would presume the "If Only..." in the title denotes the philosophical nature of the thought.
While in the midst of an early-access forum for Idea? What could possibly be the point of this sort of "philosophical" musing aside from (hint hint, nudge nudge, wink wink) trying to get people clamoring for Ruby support and thus waste even more of IntelliJ's time.
wouldn't a response like "Mmm, no that's not a good idea, because..." be more adult than "I didn't find your ..."?
No, because if I said that instead I would have answered the wrong post (the topic as opposed to the grousing reply that this has become a "flame war")
A reasonable interpretation of your and others' responses to this and other topics would be "You are a thoughtless, selfish, retarded pig-buggerer who has just wasted everyone's time, poisoned the entire EAP process, ensured the demise of our beloved IDE, and probably initiated the gradual decline and implosion of our corrupt, decadent society. Thanks a lot for the next dark age, devil."
Yes, that sums it up nicely. :)
Oh good. As long as we're all on the same page...:)
No, you stupid! I think Javascript is the SuXX0R!! IntelliJ should add C# support to IDEA. Uhhh, wait a second... ;)
On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 15:43:38 -0400, Robert S. Sfeir wrote:
On a SERIOUS request thou - user definable syntax highlighting would be
handy, even if theres no "pragmatic" support, highlighting would be handy.
Esp. for when editing jython scripts, or sql statements etc.
--
...turn to the light - don't be frightened by the shadows it creates,
...turn to the light - turning away could be a terrible mistake
...dream theater - the great debate
On Wed, 02 Jul 2003 18:39:06 +1200, Mark Derricutt <pinhead@satinism.org>
wrote:
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>> Can IDEA support ColdFusion and WiTango please? I mean if you're gonna
>> add PHP, we should also have those 2 things.
>>
>> Hani, I was hoping that the request was a joke too... alas it doesn't
>> seem
>> like it, I think Steve was serious when he asked.
>
>
>
+1
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as far as I know Jetbrains plan an IDE for C#
personally I would also prefer it if they build a IDE for
ruby instead.
this is just personal taste.
My favorite language:
http://shakespearelang.sourceforge.net/report/shakespeare/
This definitely needs an IDE.
Rayz wrote:
--
Erb
==============================================================
"Most of you are familiar with the virtues of a programmer.
There are three, of course: laziness, impatience, and hubris."
- Larry Wall
==============================================================
+1, loved the idea :)
I know a few people out there who sure deserved this treatment. Thankfully not on this forum (cough, cough, Javalobby, cough).