Suggestion for J2ME

The other day I donwloaded and eval copy of IDEA (5.0). I really like IDEA. But I noticed creating a project is a bit more involved than what it used to when I used to use 3.x, 4.x. When creating a J2ME project it asked all these questions about JAD/Manifest and other stuff. I recommend that those questions can be bypassed, because for many developers, JAD/Manfiest creation is done by the Ant scripts, so there is no need to go over those questions, and creating files tht are not needed.

See:
http://www.cenriqueortiz.com/weblog/General/2005/12/10/IDEs-A-Tool-or-an-Obstacle.html
and the related comments.

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C. Enrique Ortiz wrote:

The other day I donwloaded and eval copy of IDEA (5.0). I really like
IDEA. But I noticed creating a project is a bit more involved than

many developers, JAD/Manfiest creation is done by the Ant scripts, so
there is no need to go over those questions, and creating files tht
are not needed.


If you don't need the J2ME support, you can always develop your project
as a 'normal' java module. Use the ant-scripts for your J2ME-specific
tasks. I think that's exactly what you are looking for.

Personally, for J2ME I use both ant scripts & the built-in support. My
jad/manifests are updated (not created, actually...) by both the IDE
and/or the ant scripts, as necessary.
You are right, the built-in support is not required - I've been using
IDEA since version 3.0 to do J2ME development - with ant-scripts &
"remote" debugging. The built-in stuff just makes it all more
convenient, especially in the debug process...

Actually, exactly the same argument can be made for the j2ee support -
it's not stricly necessary (and here, too, I always have ant-scripts in
addition to the built-in support) - if you don't want it, don't
configure your IDE to offer it. I actually think IDEA is particularly
strong in this regard...

Regards,
Edwin

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Hello C. Enrique Ortiz,

I am sorry, but I do not exactly understand what do you want from J2ME Support
in IDE - run/debug stuff only?
I agree that most of j2me developers use thier own scripts to build jad/manifest/jar
files. But if you are going to develop your first midlet it might be a pain
to create such enironment. We try to help here. We are going to generate
ant files based on our build process (as it already done for j2ee). It would
be simplier to start your own scripts.
You do not like additional questions on every startup? May be we should add
'do not show again' option to use defaults. What do you think?
Thank you.

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Best Regards,

Anna Kozlova
JetBrains Inc.
http://www.intellij.com
"Develop with pleasure!"

The other day I donwloaded and eval copy of IDEA (5.0). I really like
IDEA. But I noticed creating a project is a bit more involved than
what it used to when I used to use 3.x, 4.x. When creating a J2ME
project it asked all these questions about JAD/Manifest and other
stuff. I recommend that those questions can be bypassed, because for
many developers, JAD/Manfiest creation is done by the Ant scripts, so
there is no need to go over those questions, and creating files tht
are not needed.

See:
http://www.cenriqueortiz.com/weblog/General/2005/12/10/IDEs-A-Tool-or-
an-Obstacle.html and the related comments.



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Anna Kozlova wrote:

simplier to start your own scripts. You do not like additional questions
on every startup? May be we should add 'do not show again' option to use
defaults. What do you think?


Actually, that would be cool. Or, similarly, something like a 'Template
J2ME project' would be useful

Regards,
Edwin

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