IDEA and JSP 2.0 Support

Is there anything available that will raise the level of IDEA integrated
support for JSP (2.0)??? What about JSF support???

Thanks,
Anthony

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No, and No.

We've been griping about it for a long long time... I think it's time JB steps up to the plate and delivers a build right after Pallada with the changes necessary... Even if it means wiping out the current framework and making it work right.

It's getting really lame.

R

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Without having to go thru a ton of postings, what direction and/or
priority do you think JB will take on this? I'm might have to abandon
IDEA if there is little to hope for, regardless of the outstanding user
friendlieness of IDEA! The other players are more active in this area!!!

No, and No.

We've been griping about it for a long long time... I think it's time JB steps up to the plate and delivers a build right after Pallada with the changes necessary... Even if it means wiping out the current framework and making it work right.

It's getting really lame.

R

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Well, last rumble I had heard was IDEA 5.0, when that is I don't know. I think it should be sooner. They're not ignoring it, but I think they had bigger issues on their plate to deal with, some very bad UI and usability issues.

That said, they've also improved the J2EE support in the upcoming 4.1, how much? Well it depends on your point of view. If you really care about JSP 2 and JSF, then there are no improvements. If you care about open API so we can write more plugins, then you're on the winning side.

I think the new features and improvements they're throwing in are important, and appreciated, I just think that they're only being thrown in because they tame the beast that complains about J2EE support in IDEA.

I think they owe it to their users to put it in 5.0 (6-7 months out?) The last 4.0 rev was a huge refactoring and redesign internally, so there was no way they would do it then. My understanding is the framework is not good enough to do a lot of the things we want, including refactoring, code cleanup, etc...

If I'm off, I'm sure someone from JB will correct me.

R

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Is Fabrique their answer?

As far a JSF goes, I did stumble on the Faces Console plugin (
www.jamesholmes.com ) for IDEA. I have to check it out, however, I'm
getting a little concerned about my investment in IDEA ( as little as it
as is at $250 )...soon to be a tank of gas worth with the way prices are
going...it makes open source and Eclipse look much better every day.

Anthony

Well, last rumble I had heard was IDEA 5.0, when that is I don't know. I think it should be sooner. They're not ignoring it, but I think they had bigger issues on their plate to deal with, some very bad UI and usability issues.

That said, they've also improved the J2EE support in the upcoming 4.1, how much? Well it depends on your point of view. If you really care about JSP 2 and JSF, then there are no improvements. If you care about open API so we can write more plugins, then you're on the winning side.

I think the new features and improvements they're throwing in are important, and appreciated, I just think that they're only being thrown in because they tame the beast that complains about J2EE support in IDEA.

I think they owe it to their users to put it in 5.0 (6-7 months out?) The last 4.0 rev was a huge refactoring and redesign internally, so there was no way they would do it then. My understanding is the framework is not good enough to do a lot of the things we want, including refactoring, code cleanup, etc...

If I'm off, I'm sure someone from JB will correct me.

R

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Is Fabrique their answer?


I hope not. I won't use it if it is. I personally don't like Fabrique, a lot of others do.

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I hope it's not too. I don't mind Fabrique but it's not so much of a tool for programmers as for designers who think they should be programmers (the bane of my life - designer mentality = if it looks good... it is good). Don't get me wrong I have no problem with designers who stick to what they are good at, but designers playing with code IMO usually marks complete disaster so hopefully Fabrique can help address that issue for those who use it.

I am desperate for better J2EE support in IDEA as virtually all my work is J2EE these days and I REALLY don't want to have to switch from IDEA because it's the only IDE I've ever used to actually help my productivity rather than hinder it.

The support for J2EE in version 4.0 in comparison to competitor IDEs is quite frankly border-line pathetic... I still can't believe they put so much work on the GUI Designer for 4.0 which looks great but is something I'm never going to use (though I know a few people who do) and made so little progress on J2EE which is one of the largest Java markets these days.

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if everyone has done that already, you ought to weigh in with some votes on this request.

http://www.intellij.net/tracker/idea/viewSCR?publicId=14990

I honestly don't think it makes a diff, but hey if we can get JB's attention in this way also, it doesn't hurt. I threw in my 100, and it looks like it grew by another 300 since yesterday.

I WANT MY.... I WANT MY... I WANT MY JSPeeeeeee

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"Robert S. Sfeir" <robert@codepuccino.com> wrote in message news:27840580.1084454603897.JavaMail.itn@is.intellij.net...

if everyone has done that already, you ought to weigh in with some votes on this request.

http://www.intellij.net/tracker/idea/viewSCR?publicId=14990

I honestly don't think it makes a diff, but hey if we can get JB's attention in this way also, it doesn't hurt. I threw in my 100, and it looks like it grew by another 300 since yesterday.

I WANT MY.... I WANT MY... I WANT MY JSPeeeeeee

R



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