Why do you want to ruin everything with new UI?

> that make you capable of comparing and knowing

The "experience" is a major element that actual JB team is missing.

Looks like jetbrains is just going to bury their head in the sand and ignore us. Disgraceful.

I don't understand why they developed fleet if they make the UI minimalism on they big ide's .

Maybe they people who dislike it are really too less or they will see it in a year when the subscriptions are cancelled, as most will probably pay yearly

The worst part of all this is that as great as the classic UI is, it still needs a lot of work for improvement and bug fixing, but now that it's been sidelined and will eventually be deprecated, we probably won't be able to expect new features or bug fixes in it like before. Even if we can still use the classic UI, the lack of its active development now is a dealbreaker.

I'm personally going to stick with the 2023.3.x versions of Jetbrains IDEs, and ride them out until they're no longer usable. I will not be using any “Classic UI” plugin. Hopefully by the time this version becomes too old, either Visual Studio (not VSC) will no longer be as bad as it is currently for debugging and plugins, or a competitor that replicates the old Jetbrains management comes along. I hope for one of the these two scnearios, as Jetbrains is clearly going a direction I'm no longer interested in as a customer.

Another paid user here :(
Paying a lot for the entire suit and then be enforce to use the new UI is very disappointing. 
I'm also evaluating VSCode which, not surprisingly, is also happening in my company. 

The thing is that we all know the new UI is gonna be dropped at any point in the future (for no reason), and yes, it definitely much more comfortable to the eye, much more *useful for a developer* (which is that matters, not fancy looking bells and whistles).

You are following the industry trend, but this trend might no be the one your paying userbase is interested in and not for your benefit in the long term.
There's a lot of room for improvement in JetBrains IDEs (i.e. expanding with plugins created in other languages and not having to do a PhD in Java and your SDK to do it; that's where VSCode shines).

Just wanted to chime in that I have also cancelled my annual product pack for IntelliJ. I've used this IDE for 7+ years and loved it the entire time only for Jetbrains to kill their golden goose in favor of aping Microsoft. I'll ride out my current fallback license with the classic UI until the day it dies. The fact that Jetbrains is doubling down in the face of continual criticism from long-time existing subscribers and withholding new features from their flagship product (IntelliJ) in favor of the afterbirth that is Fleet is insulting. You are chasing trends in favor of improving your core functionality and it shows. I think the only thing that will save this company is a major leadership change.

People in this thread, just if you did not know they published some guide how to try to resemble classic ui in new ui. I will not discuss how awfull this overall is and how they still frame that “everything is fine”, but still it could help someone https://blog.jetbrains.com/idea/2024/10/bridging-the-gap-between-the-classic-and-new-uis/#how-to-configure-familiar-behavior-in-the-new-ui

Hey Jetbrains, maybe you could create some kind of automation to flip all these settings ? The guide may be useful but it's still rather annoying that multiple people have to spend time to do it, and what's worse if I use multiple products (pycharm, webstorm, intellij etc) I have to do it again and again in every single one.

Liliana Ziolek agree, i don't care if i use new ui when it looks and feels like classic ui.

> Liliana Ziolek agree, i don't care if i use new ui when it looks and feels like classic ui.

The problem is it's not fully supported in all scenarios and even so it's not going to be supported at all by <whatever date they said>. Otherwise,  no one would have a problem with it.

Gabriel Moreno Brc  bruh,  look: if new UI looks and and feels like classic ui - it's a classic ui.

Actually it's not the case so i'm forced to use “plugin” (cheap xml config which enables classic ui).

I know, I know. You caught me in a zen moment, trying to be polite and understanding…

Well looks like Rider is now free, probably all their other IDEs soon. Which makes me think, they're going the MS direction of just releasing all their products for free - they don't care anymore about our opinions or our money. So what do they care about? Most probably the data they collect from us. This seems to be the new major currency these days. It's no longer about money but us training future AI models without us knowing it, or who knows what else they're up to. The consumer and their opinion no longer matter.

You may disable data sharing in “Settings | Appearance & Behavior | System Settings | Data Sharing”. We collect and send to internet no other user data, turn on any traffic inspection applications to double-check that. 
Furthermore, we have signed an agreement with LLM providers, that no data coming from other AI assistant can be used in further training.

It has been a year since the official comment above:
https://intellij-support.jetbrains.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/8872880708370/comments/15881385932050

So. Few questions:

1) Will JetBrains support the Classic UI indefinitely?
I have read the blog, and it is not too reassuring. Despite shoveling the new UI down the throats of users (abrupt unsolicited switch and making it a default without even asking), still, 13 % resist; and 13 % of whom? In 87 % of companies I worked for, the policy dictates to turn off the telemetrics from IDEA. 

2) If not, will JetBrains provide an alternative product?

3) Maybe a rhetorical question: Why forcing users to adopt what they did not ask for, why not rather provide a plugin for the new UI? I mean, imagine your family car suddenly turning to a cabriolet which breaks your use cases because why not, and if you want your car back, kindly head to a service and have a roof welded onto it. What kind of user/customer policy is that? Why should anyone invest into learning the new UI if JetBrains can decide next year that IDEA should look like Notepad? Please think about it. The only reason I would stick with IDEA in the new UI is it's support for Kotlin, and you're lucky to own a great language which you can use to hammer your “innovation” (by copying VS code) into “paying users” (yes, my company pays; but if I tell my manager I don't need IDEA anymore, he will gladly save the money).

I am not disputing that many people like the new UI. Good for them, and maybe I will one day switch too and provide feedback (when not busy working). I am also not saying that JetBrains did not listen to what *some* users were asking for.

I am disputing the way this is done: By undercutting the users which did *not* ask for it, telling them “we're going to maybe support it one more year and then accept it or GTFO”.  Imagine you did this with a language design. I heard cool Minecraft kids use Lua which has no interfaces, maybe throw interfaces away from Kotlin and make them a compiler plugin? That's what you did to the UI.

Hopefully someone will hear this out and think about the complement of those “87 %” percent (which I believe is now 88.48%). Thanks.

I went ahead and bit the bullet of cancelling (or more correctly stated not renewing) my personal intelliJ subscription. I've now made it a personal goal in 2025 to become more proficient in VS Code for doing Java development. I actually may switch to leveraging Quarkus because it seems as if the VS Code plugin for that is pretty good and I've been meaning to really get up to speed with Quarkus anyway…especially the slick integration with LangChain4J. Thanks for the memories IntelliJ.

Ondrej Zizka they see stats on the plugin. Everyone sees the stats on the plugin. As well as comments. Words are not needed. They know the situation. Their management know it's a HUGE FAULT. But since they are management and have power, they try to hide it. End users are the last people they think of. They try to save themselves.

the problem with all those possible customizations is that there is no way I could understand now, what is wrong - it's tons of different small things, badly misplaced actions, bad similarly-looking icons, actions that require 10 clicks to get there, etc. Also, the persistent feeling of space wasted on nothing (I guess it's coming from some design styles - probably some M$ company decided to design a design that would fit, in their view, both mobile and desktop, and spent tons of $$$ on it) - and so the incosistency of having to pull the action out of deep hole while there is so much space which could have been used.

Seems to me a lot of the replies from JB are showing us ways we can make the new UI more usable or compatible with the current UI, but the point is why would we want to spend time trying to get the new UI to work as well as the current UI already does!

I do not care about looks as long as its fit for purpose, I'm not interested in a new swish UI. I have themes I use to change the way it looks, and I want all the menues displayed by default. 

They are not clutter, they are the tools we use for our work. 

Where did this request come from, was it your users or an internal decision ?

Please don't change things for the sake of it, there are other bugs and issues your users would prefer you to spend your time on :)

Lee Perry Though, I'm not from JB, I'm pretty sure the request came from “effective” managers, of course packed with charts showing downloads of VS Code.

 I just installed the new version of PyCharm, I had to install the classic UI plugin to get rid of the new UI. I genuinely considering moving to another IDE, it's just ridiculous I'm having to install a plugin to revert the UI!

It's been a while this thread and other ones about the same subject are open, the dev community is vastly - let me say it - pissed off, and there does not seem to be ANY regard about that from JetBrains… that's sad from what lots of us consider(ed?) to be the best IDE brans.