When will old UI be deprecated?

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Hello,

When will the old UI be official deprecated/gone/unusable? 

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"While we are still iterating on the refinement and polishing of the new UI (based on the insightful feedback we expect to get from our users), we plan to keep both the old and new UI for at least a year after the new UI becomes the default"

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"For now, we have no plans to eliminate the traditional UI, and it will be an option at least until the end of the next year"

Dmitry Jemerov (employee)
"We do plan to provide exactly this kind of a setting for some time, but unfortunately we can’t keep it available forever because maintaining two parallel versions of the UI has very significant costs for us (related not as much to new UI implementation but mostly to the UI design and development for new features, testing, marketing/documentation etc. – we can’t do all of that twice for the old and the new UI)."

I am going to be blunt here, I don't like the new UI. Enough people have already written what they think is wrong with it. I agree with most of it. It's only fair that I don't pay for a product that I don't like anymore. Or a product with an unclear future when it comes to essential features like the UI.

Can we get some more information on this?

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Anton Narkevich the new UI will be turned on for all users in 2024.2, but the classic UI will still be available as a plugin. 

The product has been getting laggier and laggier over the years

Please describe scenarios where you face performance issues and, whenever possible, provide diagnostics as per this article, we will investigate  and do our best to address them.  

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JetBrains are you insane? This is worst than Microsoft and Apple treating it's users as retarded.

You force a new UI just to have a hi five of some JetBrains managers that they completed a big transformation project 2024 or with other corporate name on it. IDE is about automation and muscle memory, to speed up programming. If you force your users to clear everything they learned throught the years this is devatating in productivity terms!

I don't wanna pay for such crap (the UI) and your sick ideas on transforming products in new era. This is an Era of JetBrains fail.

 

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I can only agree with Karen's comment “P.S. Dear JetBrains we (developers) are not instagram users…” ! PLEASE JETBRAINS LET US WORK OUR WAY.
There is a vast user base that PAY to have a TOOL they LIKE. I personally can't bear this new UI as it really does not fit my inner logic as an old grumpy dev, and i know i'm really not alone. 
It would be nice to ask DEVELOPERS and not DESIGNERS what to do with the UI of our EVERYDAY TOOL.
Sorry for the uppercase words, but i'm really sad about this really unwanted change.

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I get that you want people to use the new UI, and if they want to, that's great.

But why would you take away the option to use the classic UI?

If i wanted an IDE that looked like vs code, i'd use vs code.

I didn't mind the new UI being the default look as long as i could switch back to what i wanted. 

I get that its a plugin now, but now its an extra plugin i have to download and keep updated with each and every new version that gets released, and sync across computers.

Please restore the option of using the old UI as being part of the installation package. Make it a separate download if you want, call it Clion Classic (honestly i'd prefer this option), but something besides a plugin.

Please.

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I agree with Jeffrey Reynolds and good point from Blambert-ext 

I don't agree that this if fine to have it as plugin because - think! It is now moved to a plugin and some day this plugin is not compatible with current version of IntelliJ (and other based products). That's an obvious plan for managers to push old UI outside of IDE and then stop supporting.

Start listening to your users. Because we PAY not you. This is not OSS project so we should obey your rules. 

We pay, we demand, you listen.

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Terrible, terrible, terrible changes. NEW UI is a default UI, OLD UI is wiped out from the IDE and avail as a plugin for who knows how long.

I will stop using & paying JB products if you will wipe out OLD UI from plugins. Also i stop all “JB friendly” talks w/ business untill there are no clear statement about (noone will hear from me advices to use JB products).

You're stabbed us in the back. I use IntellijIdea since 2005 as a student. I won't pay for new UI and also do all my best everywhere i have my hand on to wipe out JB products same way you wiped OLD UI.

 

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What is the latest version of Webstorm with normal UI? And is it possible to have a lifetime license for it? My subscription is expiring but I think it still could be usable for some time until I switch to VS Code.

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Fires3as0n 2024.1.x
Yes, its possible to have a fallback (permanent) license for it, check your subscription page, and it will tell you outright.

2024.1 is my fallback version and i've canceled my automatic renewal after like 15 years.

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I hope The Managers will see all those comments, including like of Jeffrey Reynolds  when People declare to drop payment after many years of use.

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1st of all classic ui aren't a plugin as is. It doesn't add a new functionality.

  • JB wiped out a classic ui from menu
  • JB added toggle as a plugin

That's a very VERY dirty game. By default you have no option to use classic ui anymore from the box, while it exists in the IDE and could be enabled via external "plugin". That's disgusting as an act and disrespectful for the all customers. I feel that marketing team really think that they can do things that way

NO YOU CAN'T.

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I've been paying for the Jetbrains bundle for many years, but if the classic UI is no longer available, I'll unfortunately have to say goodbye. I might as well switch to using VS Code instead. Why are you trying to fix something that is not broken? You are scaring away your old customers.

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Well, I've been into JB tools for 20+ years. I ain't fixing the UI that's not broken, and when we reach the end of the road we'll see.

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I've just had an awful day. My main Linux development PC died. I've had to totally rebuild it. I'm REALLY busy. I've just reinstalled JetBrains Rider, my main workhorse, and I can't use it. WHAT'S HAPPENED TO THE UI!!!!!!!!

I can't put anything anywhere where I can easily get at it, as I could before. Can't pin stuff to the bottom bar, can't get the left bar clear, I like all my stuff on the right or the bottom.

This is an absolute NIGHTMARE, I NEED TO WORK!!!!!

How do I get the old UI back. I'm a paying customer and you are doing a MASSIVE disservice to me!

Please advise ASAP.

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Craig yeah, install plugin while you can. There's a schedule, in corporate terms - The Roadmap - to get rid of plugin silently in the future. Managers have decided.

So enjoy the plugin and an old UI while you can. JetBrains knows better what you need when you are in hurry and try to focus on your work.

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Bartek Zdanowski I have now installed the plug in and some sanity has returned. But to answer your last point……..

I can't focus on my work when I'm having to click around all over the place to find stuff, when I can't place items where I want, when I can't read the new font as well as the old.

Your management needs it's head examining for allowing this. UI is EXTREMELY important and is not to be left to stylists and the inexperienced. As your products are heavily used in high pressure WORK situations you need to understand the health and safety implications of your changes.  We use your products for WORK, not pleasure. Hiding things behind extra clicks isn't good.  VS Code does that sort of thing and it's why I don't use it much. Reducing configurability isn't good. You have/had a USP of being a great environment, you've now polluted it by pandering to Microsoft's products which are renowned for poor UI. Why, oh why don't you appreciate what you have/had?

If you're only catering to hobbyists, that's fine. But you're not, you're meant to be providing professionals with professional tools. I suggest you involve EXPERIENCED professionals in your UI revamp. For now, just put it back, cut your losses, lose face if you have to, but we really don't care. Accept you made a mistake and just provide us with the tools we're paying for. 

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Same here, sorry. IDE is UI. A new UI is a new IDE. And the plugin doesn't solve it.

Going to wait some more, and then cancel the subscription.

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I've just got back to doing some development after spending 2 days rebuilding my machine. I've installed the plug in, but where the hell is the “attach to process”? It was in the 3 vertical dots on the top right hand side. I can't be dealing with this stuff, I'm TRYING TO WORK!!  This will be the last year I give Jetbrains any money, they've lost the plot.

WHAT was the imperative to change the UI?  Even with the plugin it's useless!

Please don't think JetBrains is “too big to fail”. That sort of pride comes before a BIG fall!

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Craig The plugin _is_ useless.

The best thing you can do is fall back to version 2024.1.x, which is the last version before they made this stupid change.

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Jeffrey Reynolds please elaborate what exactly did not work for you with the plugin. We would appreciate a screenshot and the error log ("Help | Collect logs and diagnostic data…").

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Nadia Tarashkevich For starters, from a technical level, what doesn't work is remote development with it. But more importantly, as others have pointed out, ithe plugin similar, bu its not 100% the same.

What “doesn't work”, however, isn't a technical issue to be gleaned from logs. Its is not being able to use the same UI i've been using for the last 15 years when it would have cost JB nothing to leave it as a toggle for stodgy old farts like me that like the old UI. 

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Jeffrey Reynolds the Remote is a technical restriction. 

You wrote that the plugin is similar, but it's not 100% the same. Please elaborate. Being not the same is not designed, and we intend to correct this issue.

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Please never force the new UI. It is just terrible …doesn't need to be fixed—just abandon it.
Really, it is not a style for developers as others mentioned … this is not Instagram … developers usually got happy even with command line … as long as it is efficient and clear + it is no.1 feature that makes Jetbrains IDE's “a developer friendly” thing. 

What about just improving the traditional one, while keeping same traditional practical cozy STYLE..

By the way new UI looks so bad on FHD screens while the old one is PERFECT

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When you will admit that the new UI is garbage and go back to old one?😒

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