When will old UI be deprecated?
Hello,
When will the old UI be official deprecated/gone/unusable?
Source
"While we are still iterating on the refinement and polishing of the new UI (based on the insightful feedback we expect to get from our users), we plan to keep both the old and new UI for at least a year after the new UI becomes the default"
Source
"For now, we have no plans to eliminate the traditional UI, and it will be an option at least until the end of the next year"
Dmitry Jemerov (employee)
"We do plan to provide exactly this kind of a setting for some time, but unfortunately we can’t keep it available forever because maintaining two parallel versions of the UI has very significant costs for us (related not as much to new UI implementation but mostly to the UI design and development for new features, testing, marketing/documentation etc. – we can’t do all of that twice for the old and the new UI)."
I am going to be blunt here, I don't like the new UI. Enough people have already written what they think is wrong with it. I agree with most of it. It's only fair that I don't pay for a product that I don't like anymore. Or a product with an unclear future when it comes to essential features like the UI.
Can we get some more information on this?
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Hello,
We're working on new UI and trying to fix all notes provided by users. As old UI is still widely used we couldn't name exact date of deprecation.
Sorry don't really like the new UI either. If it is not broke don't fix it.
How does one submit feedback on the new UI?
I have been trying it for about two hours now and have not accomplished any actual work due to fighting with the ne UI.
You could use IDE main menu "Help | Submit Feedback" to submit the feedback on the new UI.
If old UI will be deprecated or disabled, I won't pay for new license. There are other IDE with new UI-like interface, such as free VSCode. I pay for old UI only.
@... Accourding to https://www.jetbrains.com/idea/new-ui/ :
Let's be honest here, the new UI is simply trying to copy the VSCode UI, which for some reason became very popular in recent years.
I've always seen JetBrains products as intended for power users, not eye candy, but I guess I was wrong, honestly I'll gladly pay X3 the price just to keep the current UI.
Was constantly changing to new UI and back, again and again trying to get used to it, alas… (using both Idea and Rider)
just NO, I dont want to keep constantly hovering over the icons to read what they do. If they remove old UI I most likely will change to other IDE. As simple as this!
P.S. Dear JetBrains we (developers) are not instagram users…
Hi Karen,
Please upvote IDEA-298006 and share your comments/suggestions, if any. Our UX team is working on it and we appreciate feedback.
Hi Nadia, I see the thread you shared. In short Jetbrains must not remove the old UI, ideally they need to remove new UI. Old is so much better and simpler
Thank god, I already migrated to VSCode, for now I'm using old version of Android Studio just to keep using old UI. After removing old UI, I'm not gonna use even Android Studio. When it comes to new UI it's even worse than VSCode. VSCode is free and Swiss army knife for developer. But JetBrains IDE's was made with specialization in mind. Let's see where will be JetBrains after couple years with paid version of VSCode without rich customization extensions.
I share the sentiments of all the comments here. PLEASE do not remove the old ui.
I am productive in the old UI - tried vscode a few times but after a some time.. ahhh back to pycharm.
Suggestion for the new UI : make it into a new product
If the old UI is removed, the new-UI annoyance is enough motivation to switch to sth else.
I agree with others, I do not like this new UI. You are eroding one of the two reasons I stick with IntelliJ.
1. You have an excellent git tool/log that I know.
2. I know the UI well as well. If you make me switch to the new UI, I'll just start using VSCode for free.
Tom Beckenhauer the classic UI will most probably be moved to a plugin before unbundling, so there will be an opportunity to use it further.
We would be grateful if you describe the issues preventing you from using the newUI so we can address them.
Ekaterina Valeeva
You are asking me what's wrong with the new UI. The problem is “opportunity cost”.
I have enough things to learn, I don't need to spend my time learning your new UI scheme. If I have to learn a new UI, I will pick something that doesn't cost me money(vscode). This is not complicated.
Interesting thing from 2024 year about new UI. I'm lecturer in university and find out that new UI is harder for students than old one. So actually students try to use external instruments than using PyCharm and don't use all benefits of product at all. As a result there no diff in use with VScode for them.
The new UI tries to hide lots of things in order to maintain so-called “simplicity” and it is tailored for the macOS (for example, the main menu bar needs to click to show in Windows while it is on the system menu bar natively in MacOS). I am happier with the old UI, since it provides all the tools I need instead of forcing me to play hide-and-seek. For example:
Lufei thank you for your detailed feedback.
Push and pull VCS buttons can be added to the main toolbar via the toolbar context menu (“Add to main toolbar”). There is also a ticket that you might want to upvote IDEA-307184.
Labeled tool window icons should be available in 2024.1.
The latest version of the new UI isn't even usable on Intel macOS machines. I'm still running 2022.3.3 until this issue is fixed: https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/JBR-745/Improve-java2d-rendering-performance-on-macOS-by-using-Metal-framework
Hello Cam,
Issue should be fixed in 2024.2 version.
Looking forward to it
I just switched from 2024.1 Beta back to 2023.3.4 because I couldn't disable the new ui. I've been paying for all the products for ~20 years and I am tempted to pin that version and stop upgrading.
@Malachi de Ælfweald the final transition has yet to be made. Classic UI must be available in 2024.1 Beta, if you don't see it, please send a screenshot of what you get in "Settings | Appearance & Behavior | New UI" to support@jetbrains.com , so we will be able to assist
Nadia Tarashkevich Thanks for that. When I opened it last time, I didn't see ‘New UI’ under Appearance and it didn't show up when I searched for it. I just went to grab the screenshot and it was there. Not sure what happened, but I have it disabled now. Thanks!
Where can we vote to have the old UI always available via settings instead of as a plugin?
As of today, it is gone in the EAP.
I used the Toolbox to install the previous version and pin it.
That's obviously not a long term solution, since plugins will stop working over time.
After using IntelliJ and the rest of the tools for 20 years, I am going to start looking for a new IDE.
The Classic UI is now a plugin. Download it from the Marketplace at https://plugins.jetbrains.com/plugin/24468-classic-ui.
Thank you so much Nadia Tarashkevich that worked!
If you install pycharm with snap, you can prevent updates like this.
$ sudo snap refresh --hold=forever pycharm-professional
General refreshes of "pycharm-professional" held indefinitely
$ sudo snap list pycharm-professional
Name Version Rev Tracking Publisher Notes
pycharm-professional 2024.1.1 387 latest/stable jetbrains✓ classic,held
I've been using WebStorm for about 11 years now, and let me be absolutely clear: I will NOT continue paying for it if the new UI is forced on us.
The product has been getting laggier and laggier over the years, and instead of fixing the performance issues, you're wasting resources on a UI change that no one wants or needs.
Enough is enough. This is the final straw.