Difference between PyCharm/PHPStorm and IDEA Plugins for Python/PHP

Hello Timmy,

i'm taking a look at at JetBrains' IDEs and was wondering wether there
is a difference between the various IDEA Plugins for PHP/Python/etc.
and the standalone versions PHPStorm/PyCharm/etc.

The difference is mostly in the overall user interface of the IDE and project
configuration. The language-specific functionality is the same.

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I dont think (atleast) the Python plugin allows you to step through the code and put breakpoints (debuggin), unless I am completely missing something. I am looking to do the same. My project has Java and Python modules, so I don't want PyCharm (another editor), just want the plugin to provude me everything.

Recent versions of the Python plugin do include a debugger for Python.

Oh wow, that will be cool, but don't they get listed in the list of available plugins inside IDEA? Do I have to download them seperately?

The Python plugin is listed in Settings | Plugins. Note that recent versions of the plugin work only with recent versions of IDEA (the debugger is only available if you're using IDEA 9).

Am using IDEA 9.0.1, and I have installed the available Python plugin.It provides Syntax highlighting and running python scripts, but no debugging feature.
Mind you, I am still to buy the licence which I will do in a day or two. (Could that be a reason why I dont see the latest verison of the plugin?)

Aaah looks like i need 9.0.2 that is compatible with plugin version of 2.5, which has d
ebugging features. But is there any non-EAP /post-EAP version of 9.0.2 available yet?

http://confluence.jetbrains.net/display/PYH/Version+2.5+Release+Notes

Just re-checked, and it turns out that version 2.5 of the Python plugin (which includes a debugger) requires IntelliJ IDEA 9.0.2 EAP, available from http://confluence.jetbrains.net/display/IDEADEV/Maia+EAP . Sorry for the confusion.

yep will do that thx a lot     

Works fine now thx. BTW, whats the ETA for this 9.0.2 release? Do I wait till I purchase any licence, coz earlier versions like 9.0.1 are no good, I need 9.0.2 onwards.

Hello Pad,

Works fine now thx. BTW, whats the ETA for this 9.0.2 release? Do I
wait till I purchase any licence, coz earlier versions like 9.0.1 are
no good, I need 9.0.2 onwards.

9.0.2 will be released within a week or two. There's no need to wait with
buying the license - it will be just as valid for all 9.x updates regardless
of when you buy it.

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Is it possible to use IntelliJ AND PHPStorm as one IDE? Or do i have to use two different IDEs? Is the plugin version of the PHPEditor the same as PHPStorm and do i have to purchase a seperate license for that. In other words - How can i combine multiple Jetbrains products?

Thanks in advance

Hello Thomas,

The PHP plugin is bundled with IntelliJ IDEA Ultimate, so you can use it
if you already have an IntelliJ IDEA license - you don't need to buy PHPStorm.

Is it possible to use IntelliJ AND PHPStorm as one IDE? Or do i have
to use two different IDEs? Is the plugin version of the PHPEditor the
same as PHPStorm and do i have to purchase a seperate license for
that. In other words - How can i combine multiple Jetbrains products?

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Thanks for the Info. Sounds great

So, if i purchase IntelliJ Idea Ultimate 9.0 now, i'll get a free upgrade for Ultimate 10.0 which implies PHPStorm 2.0. Is that correct?
Will i get the update to PHPStorm 2.0 as soon as it gets released even if Idea Ultimate 10.0 was not yet released? Or will i have to wait until Idea Ultimate 10 gets released?

Is there a release plan for both Idea Ultimate 10 and PHPStorm2 ?

Thanks

Kind regards
Thomas

Hello Thomas,

You will get an upgrade to IntelliJ IDEA 10 and the version of the PHP plugin
that is included with it. Since the release cycles of IntelliJ IDEA 10 and
PHPStorm 2.0 are not synchronized (and PHPStorm 2.0 will be released later
than IntelliJ IDEA 10), it's possible that by the time of the release of
PHPStorm some new features will be added to the PHP plugin which will not
be available in IntelliJ IDEA 10 and will only appear in the next version
of IntelliJ IDEA.

To use PHPStorm as a standalone product, you need to buy a separate license.

So, if i purchase IntelliJ Idea Ultimate 9.0 now, i'll get a free
upgrade for Ultimate 10.0 which implies PHPStorm 2.0. Is that correct?

Will i get the update to PHPStorm 2.0 as soon as it gets released even
if Idea Ultimate 10.0 was not yet released? Or will i have to wait
until Idea Ultimate 10 gets released?

Is there a release plan for both Idea Ultimate 10 and PHPStorm2 ?

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yole schrieb:

Hello Thomas,

You will get an upgrade to IntelliJ IDEA 10 and the version of the PHP plugin
that is included with it. Since the release cycles of IntelliJ IDEA 10 and
PHPStorm 2.0 are not synchronized (and PHPStorm 2.0 will be released later
than IntelliJ IDEA 10), it's possible that by the time of the release of
PHPStorm some new features will be added to the PHP plugin which will not
be available in IntelliJ IDEA 10 and will only appear in the next version
of IntelliJ IDEA.

To use PHPStorm as a standalone product, you need to buy a separate license.

OK. I understand. But thats real bad - at least for me. But i do not think that i am the only one in this situation:
It is because i am developing php AND Java the main time, so i want the new PHPStorm-2 and i need IntelliJ IDEA for Java. So i have to buy two licenses even though there is the same PHP Editor in IntelliJ IDEA but not the latest version. Do you understand my point!?
Of course i know - most developers will either doing Java (and those are mostly satisifed with the version PHP Editor bundled in IntelliJ IDEA) or PHP.

For me, the best solution would be only one IDE where i can plug every editor in if i need them. But at least a discount would be great when i have to buy both. It is not that i am not satisfied with both of your Editors, it is only a financial question to me.

Kind regards

Hi
There is a 50% discount for PhpStorm till 30 Dec
(http://blogs.jetbrains.com/webide/2010/11/have-a-merry-christmas-with-50-off-on-your-personal-license-for-webstormphpstorm/)

Also part of PHP support changes will be available at IDEA 10.0.X update
releases

On 07.12.2010 12:46, Thomas Fritz wrote:

yole schrieb:
>
> Hello Thomas,
>
> You will get an upgrade to IntelliJ IDEA 10 and the version of the PHP plugin
> that is included with it. Since the release cycles of IntelliJ IDEA 10 and
> PHPStorm 2.0 are not synchronized (and PHPStorm 2.0 will be released later
> than IntelliJ IDEA 10), it's possible that by the time of the release of
> PHPStorm some new features will be added to the PHP plugin which will not
> be available in IntelliJ IDEA 10 and will only appear in the next version
> of IntelliJ IDEA.
>
> To use PHPStorm as a standalone product, you need to buy a separate license.

>

OK. I understand. But thats real bad - at least for me. But i do not think that i am the only one in this situation:
It is because i am developing php AND Java the main time, so i want the new PHPStorm-2 and i need IntelliJ IDEA for Java. So i have to buy two licenses even though there is the same PHP Editor in IntelliJ IDEA but not the latest version. Do you understand my point!?
Of course i know - most developers will either doing Java (and those are mostly satisifed with the version PHP Editor bundled in IntelliJ IDEA) or PHP.

>

For me, the best solution would be only one IDE where i can plug every editor in if i need them. But at least a discount would be great when i have to buy both. It is not that i am not satisfied with both of your Editors, it is only a financial question to me.

>

Kind regards

>

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So when i buy IDEA 10 now i get it with the PHP Plugin which is equivalent to PHPStorm 1.x and after time it is possible that the PHP Plugin in IDEA 10 gets updated to the new PHPStorm 2.x or only 1.x? And it is completly identical?

What would you recommend to me? Especially because you have now 50% off PHPStorm License!?

Thanks in advance


Kind regards

I have this same question. Even though this thread is from 2010.  Does IntelliJ Idea Ultimate have the same functionality with php and python that PyCharm and phpStorm have?   I would prefer to have one software versus two but I need to know if PyCharm and phpStorm have same features to IntelliJ, only multiple languages. Are there any limitations to Python or PHP development between the individual programs versus IntelliJ?

IDEA supports all features from light-weight IDEs (PyCharm, PHPStorm) via plugins without any limitations