Borland JBuilder 11 features JSF

Insteresting... only problem with that is it still looks and feels like jBuilder!! ;) lol

Interesting, but way too mouse and wizard oriented for my liking (like most of JBuilder). Click here, right-click there, go through this wizard, select this checkbox but remember you always have to select this other one in conjunction with it, now select this treenode, etc. Yuk!

and then they drag their JSF components into the html-view instead of into an asp.net-like wysiwyg environment; what's that all about?

While the flow-view is useful, most everything else about this implementation is pretty poorly implemented in my opinion.

I'd love to have JSF support in IDEA 5.0, but - please - not like this (not that I think I need to worry about JetBrains implementing this even remotely similar to JB)

but way too ... wizard oriented ...

Why do some hard-core-developers often think, that wizards are a bad
sign? If they are made right, they are very powerful, much more powerful
than simple dialogs, because of the possibility to use the existing user
input for preselection or default values in subsequent wizard pages.

Tom

You are so right with the DnD. I really like VF, but it's not JSF. Damn.

Luke Hutteman wrote:

>Interesting, but way too mouse and wizard oriented for my liking (like most of JBuilder). Click here, right-click there, go through this wizard, select this checkbox but remember you always have to select this other one in conjunction with it, now select this treenode, etc. Yuk!
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>and then they drag their JSF components into the html-view instead of into an asp.net-like wysiwyg environment; what's that all about?
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>While the flow-view is useful, most everything else about this implementation is pretty poorly implemented in my opinion.
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>I'd love to have JSF support in IDEA 5.0, but - please - not like this (not that I think I need to worry about JetBrains implementing this even remotely similar to JB)

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Rob Bradley wrote:

>Insteresting... only problem with that is it still looks and feels like jBuilder!! ;) lol

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Butt ugly and clunky.

I was thinking, most of that JSF stuff is basically just intention
actions, and a tool window that inserts some JSF templates via the PSI
interface. Shouldn't be that hard to do as a plugin?

Thomas Singer (MoTJ) wrote:
>> but way too ... wizard oriented ...

Why do some hard-core-developers often think, that wizards are a bad
sign? If they are made right, they are very powerful, much more powerful
than simple dialogs, because of the possibility to use the existing user
input for preselection or default values in subsequent wizard pages.

Tom

I, too, thinks it's good if, and only if, the developer has control over
code generation templates.
Anthony

I don't understand. How code templates are related to wizards?

Tom