comments/complaints about product: 3.0 + through to 915

Uh oh.

:)

(Dan, where are you? Shall I tell Joel to stop whining?)

Just kidding Joel. Dan was giving me a hard time last week.

I can't speak to the first three points, but yes, these comments make it to
the Jetbrains developers. And as for file synchronization...I struggled
with that for a while when I first started using IDEA. I've since learned
to adjust to work under their metaphor and I haven't had any problems.

I can't think off too many things I am having problems with. No
showstoppers, anyway. Taglib resolution could be better implemented. A
help file would be very useful (I don't keep 3.0 around--I just use the
license that came with it). It's a whole lot faster, especially recently.
My small beef would be with "Performing optimization..." on startup. With
all the JARs/source/content I have on my project, it takes forever. Let's
be blunt and brutally honest: the message should say "go get a cup of
coffee; it'll be a while".

But once I am in and coding, it's pretty solid. Personally, I wouldn't go
back to 3.0. 915, and nearly all of the builds, are good enough for
everyday real work.



"Joel" <no_mail@jetbrains.com> wrote in message
news:19652249.1063059183160.JavaMail.itn@is.intellij.net...

Hi I would like to make a few observations, that perhaps you can comment

on.
>

I was running 657 (prio to 3.* release) and life was good, except it had

one problem it occasionally ran out of memory and hung. That problem
prompted me to go for an upgrade.... I went to 3.0.5 and found that this
version had a sever memory leak, I could only run my project for about 10
minutes before having to reboot. I update mx to 250mb but it rapidly reached
that point. Now I am on the EAP's (915) and finding that there are a lot of
little things that are frustratingly different.
>

1) the caching of files seems to get more confused - I have two projects

open and one will update (create new files) the other. I close out the #2
project, run #1 and then open #2 (all with the same IntelliJ session) and #2
files are the same as I left them in the editor (the disk version is new,
but the cached editor doc is out of date). It is not checked upon rebuild,
and I get errors ..etc.
>

2) memory usage (memory leak) still seems to be around although not as bad

as 3.0.5.
>

3) From my prior posting "Instant feedback on syntax for #915" - the

syntax checker is slow and doesn't work very accurately. This is by far the
biggest problem for me. Since I relied on the syntax checker for increased
productivity.
>

Any comments? When will the next version be out? By posting this message

am I getting to the developers of IntelliJ???
>

By the way, I love the product, I just don't want to see it slipping away

into bug-dome. (I guess there has always been one grievance - I don't like
the auto file synchronization - it is a pain-in-the butt!! - I want to save
my files when and where I'd like to save them, also I'd like to be able to
do a "save as")... Thanks for listening.
>

Thanks,
Joel

Joel, please see below

--
regards,
Alexey Kudravtsev.
JetBrains, Inc
http://www.intellij.com
"Develop with pleasure!"

1) the caching of files seems to get more confused - I have two projects open and one will update (create new files) the other. I

close out the #2 project, run #1 and then open #2 (all with the same IntelliJ session) and #2 files are the same as I left them in
the editor (the disk version is new, but the cached editor doc is out of date). It is not checked upon rebuild, and I get errors
..etc.

This definitely looks like a bug, so if you can post the sample project where this isuue can be reproduced to the
www.intellij.net/tracker , we will fix that asap

>

2) memory usage (memory leak) still seems to be around although not as bad as 3.0.5.

>

3) From my prior posting "Instant feedback on syntax for #915" - the syntax checker is slow and doesn't work very accurately. This

is by far the biggest problem for me. Since I relied on the syntax checker for increased productivity.

Again, we will be grateful if you post concrete test cases for the syntax checker "inaccuracy" to the tracker.

>

Any comments? When will the next version be out? By posting this message am I getting to the developers of IntelliJ???

Yes you are!

>

By the way, I love the product, I just don't want to see it slipping away into bug-dome. (I guess there has always been one

grievance - I don't like the auto file synchronization - it is a pain-in-the butt!! - I want to save my files when and where I'd
like to save them, also I'd like to be able to do a "save as")... Thanks for listening.
>

Thanks,
Joel

1) the caching of files seems to get more confused -
I have two projects open and one will update (create
new files) the other. I close out the #2 project,
run #1 and then open #2 (all with the same IntelliJ
session) and #2 files are the same as I left them in
the editor (the disk version is new, but the cached
editor doc is out of date). It is not checked upon
rebuild, and I get errors ..etc.

This sounds like a defect

2) memory usage (memory leak) still seems to be
around although not as bad as 3.0.5.

General profiling is done at the end of the release. If you can isolate it down to a specific, then by all means report it (in the tracker).

3) From my prior posting "Instant feedback on syntax
for #915" - the syntax checker is slow and doesn't
work very accurately. This is by far the biggest
problem for me. Since I relied on the syntax checker
for increased productivity.

PErformance problems are typically not fixed until the end of the release unless there is a very severe, or specific problem that they can address. Try turning off various error checking (options->editor->errors), and seeing if you can figure out exactly which check is causing the performance issue. The file it in a tracker.

Any comments? When will the next version be out? By
posting this message am I getting to the developers
of IntelliJ???

Maybe. The best way to get their attention is to file a defect in the tracker.

Mike