815: Some look-and-feel comments

- as already mentioned by someone else, the menus are a little bit to large
- the progress bar looks nice
- the progress bar looks to small when nearly 100%
- the shading effect of the status bar does not fit to the rest
- the status bar still contains ugly bold fonts; please use bold fonts only
for marking important parts of a text
- the tab pane in the Main Module does not contain insets (try this key-
value pair in the look-and-feel: "TabbedPane.contentBorderInsets", new
InsetsUIResource(6, 6, 6, 6))
- nearly everywhere in the Main Module pane inconsistent spacings were used
between components
...

Summary: what I've seen so far looks like somebody, who is unexperienced in
GUI design, has tried different things. From my point of view, the look-
and-feel of this build looks less professional than other builds before.

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- as already mentioned by someone else, the menus are a little bit to

large

Will fix

- the progress bar looks to small when nearly 100%


Don't understand what you mean

- the shading effect of the status bar does not fit to the rest


It's EAP, an on-going effort

Summary: what I've seen so far looks like somebody, who is unexperienced

in

GUI design, has tried different things. From my point of view, the look-
and-feel of this build looks less professional than other builds before.


It's EAP, no personal judgments please

--
Eugene Belyaev, CTO
JetBrains, Inc
http://www.intellij.com
"Develop with pleasure!"



"Thomas Singer" <thomas.singer@noregnisspam.de> wrote in message
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- as already mentioned by someone else, the menus are a little bit to

large

- the progress bar looks nice
- the progress bar looks to small when nearly 100%
- the shading effect of the status bar does not fit to the rest
- the status bar still contains ugly bold fonts; please use bold fonts

only

for marking important parts of a text
- the tab pane in the Main Module does not contain insets (try this key-
value pair in the look-and-feel: "TabbedPane.contentBorderInsets", new
InsetsUIResource(6, 6, 6, 6))
- nearly everywhere in the Main Module pane inconsistent spacings were

used

between components
...

>

Summary: what I've seen so far looks like somebody, who is unexperienced

in

GUI design, has tried different things. From my point of view, the look-
and-feel of this build looks less professional than other builds before.



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>> - the progress bar looks to small when nearly 100%
>

Don't understand what you mean


The pieces go beyond the right border.

Tom

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Thomas Singer wrote:

- the shading effect of the status bar does not fit to the rest


I second your opinion here. Personally it reminded me of the Kunststoff
look & feel (http://www.incors.org). To me this also looks less
'professional' than the current look & feel in idea 3.04

Pepijn

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Agreed, I like new panel buttons but I dislike big menu items and
resemblance to Kunststoff.

/kesh

"Pepijn Van Eeckhoudt" <pepijn.vaneeckhoudt@luciad.com> wrote in message
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Thomas Singer wrote:

- the shading effect of the status bar does not fit to the rest

>

I second your opinion here. Personally it reminded me of the Kunststoff
look & feel (http://www.incors.org). To me this also looks less
'professional' than the current look & feel in idea 3.04

>

Pepijn

>


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Also, the menu items no longer line up, if they have a sub-menu. It's the little things...

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Even those without a sub-menu (see the Build menu).

Tom

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Fixed in #816

--
Eugene Belyaev, CTO
JetBrains, Inc
http://www.intellij.com
"Develop with pleasure!"



"Thomas Singer" <thomas.singer@noregnisspam.de> wrote in message
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>> - the progress bar looks to small when nearly 100%
>

Don't understand what you mean

>

The pieces go beyond the right border.

>

Tom



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Eugene, do you know the excellent book "GUI Bloopers" by Jeff Johnson, ISBN
1558605827 (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1558605827)? The author
sheds some light on what has proven to be good and bad in GUI design. I
fully recommend each developer who needs to develop GUIs to read it or any
comparable book.

BTW, it is "normal" to make mistakes in GUI design, because developers
typically do not have experience with the problems (and their solutions)
that might occur.

Tom

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