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If you also try the other patch (by changing "801e00c0 3d3f1001 8129ee48" to
"38000000 3d3f1001 39200000") you will in fact get "ctrl+space" back in
working order. At least I did!

Now the only thing missing is for Apple to take care of the problem with
foreign keyboards. I have a danish keyboard and the only way to be able to
write characters like "{" is to select US keyboard layout. And that is a
little difficult to get use to!

Keld Pedersen

in article 4264640.1044938071005.JavaMail.jrun@is.intellij.net, Jon Bodner
at jon@bodnerfamily.com wrote on 11/02/03 5:34:

Yup, I noticed the same problem. It looks like the control key is being
ignored when pressed in concert with the space bar. With any other key, IDEA
693/ 1.4.1 DP10 Patched can see it just fine. I've redefined it to
"alt-space" for now.

I guess we know what Apple was trying to make work when they broke the enter
key...

-jon



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Hi!

Yes {} ist possible (as mentioned above) using CRTL-ALT-8 and CRTL-ALT-9. | does work in a simmilar way, while [] does not.

Unfortunately things got even worse in the 1.4 DP releases: each release would swallow some additional keys (> works, < doesn't etc.).

Regards,
Wolfram.

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Wolfram Saringer schrieb:

Yes {} ist possible (as mentioned above) using CRTL-ALT-8 and

> CRTL-ALT-9. | does work in a simmilar way, while [] does not.


Unfortunately things got even worse in the 1.4 DP releases:

> Each release would swallow some additional keys (> works,

< doesn't etc.).


Thank you. I really hope these issues get resolved with the final of
1.4.1 and an update for IDEA 3. It is a shame that I can run a java
program on a whole bunch of platforms but not with different keyboard
layouts.

I wonder how the jEdit folks are doing this -- it supports all
characters on my keyboard (even with JDK 1.3) on MacOS and even puts the
menubar at the "right" place. As this is an OpenSource project, maybe
the folks at Intellij can have a brief look at the source...

Is it just for me, but the labels for Project, ... on the left and right
side of the screen do not paint properly?

Do you have any other tips how to increase productivity with a German
keyboard? Defining a Live Template for [] helps a little bit but is far
from perfect.

Best regards,

Dirk Dittert

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Hi!

I know jEdit too (i am using it for my PHP projects as well as for SQL and HTML editing). It is most annoying that the german keyboard works perfectly in this as well as another Java application I use (Oxegen XML editor).

The problem with the labels as the side is the same here (sometimes they do show up btw.). I guess this is a problem in the Apple JDK when using rotated fonts.

| can be produced with CTRL-ALT-7, which is about the only additional character I can provide.
Regarding [] I have defined a live template as well, as I did not find any key combination that would result in those characters (although I was able to create some very interesting but useless things...).

The unforunate thing is that Apple points to the working applications noting that it is possible, while IntelliJ ignores all questions regarding this issue pointing to Apple not supporting their (IntelliJ's) alternate way to read keyboard input (which does work on other platforms).

As far as I can tell IDEA 3 with JDK 1.4 will be even worse, as I am loosing more and more characters with each DP iteration (< is not working any more since DP8 I think etc.)

Regards,
Wolfram.

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